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I'd definitely argue he's been missed for sure, and I thought we all said he would be based on last years form. Last year was by far Lachie's best year. The hope was that KPP would eventually grow into a higher ceiling (and also, Fitzgibbon maintaining that form was hardly a given). But yeah, most teams would miss the 2023 edition of Fitz, he was very strong.
Just another thought on this while I'm at it. Fitz was almost as annoying as DSaf for mine in that his hot run of form really kicked off once he'd already been tapped on the shoulder and shopped around. We were all pretty happy to see the back of him, and then suddenly he was playing the house down. If Guys like DSaf and Fitz offered their best to us week in, week out for good portions of their careers - then we wouldn't be having half of the conversations we have about our team.

Too many of our players get comfy and don't produce the best footy at the Knights. There's blokes like Josh King, Nick Meaney, Connor Watson, Beau Fermor and others out there having NRL careers too. None of them would have kicked on at the Knights. We're just not that good an environment.

Josh King and Nick Meaney may well be valued contributors to a premiership winning team this year.
 

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Just another thought on this while I'm at it. Fitz was almost as annoying as DSaf for mine in that his hot run of form really kicked off once he'd already been tapped on the shoulder and shopped around. We were all pretty happy to see the back of him, and then suddenly he was playing the house down. If Guys like DSaf and Fitz offered their best to us week in, week out for good portions of their careers - then we wouldn't be having half of the conversations we have about our team.

Too many of our players get comfy and don't produce the best footy at the Knights. There's blokes like Josh King, Nick Meaney, Connor Watson, Beau Fermor and others out there having NRL careers too. None of them would have kicked on at the Knights. We're just not that good an environment.

Josh King and Nick Meaney may well be valued contributors to a premiership winning team this year.

I get what you say, but I also think maybe we are overlooking a key issue - with the exception of Fermor (who would have played exactly the same here, the talent was always there) the guys who leave and "kick on" go to clubs with good halves.

Coincidently, the clubs with "good cultures" have.... good halves.

It is all about the spine, and its no coincidence that the 4 clubs that have dominated the NRL era (Storm, Roosters, Panthers, Sea Eagles) have always had the best spines.

The blokes that have left and gone to Canberra haven't become world beaters (bar Tapine, who again was always going to be great).

Barney isn't really playing any better for the Warriors than he did for the majority of his time here, we just remember his last year here where he was really fat, and he was always dumb enough to wipe out chunks of seasons. He has calmed down as he got older - not got better.

So is it down to "we suck" or is it more.... playing with a good spine makes you look good.
 
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Just another thought on this while I'm at it. Fitz was almost as annoying as DSaf for mine in that his hot run of form really kicked off once he'd already been tapped on the shoulder and shopped around. We were all pretty happy to see the back of him, and then suddenly he was playing the house down. If Guys like DSaf and Fitz offered their best to us week in, week out for good portions of their careers - then we wouldn't be having half of the conversations we have about our team.

Too many of our players get comfy and don't produce the best footy at the Knights. There's blokes like Josh King, Nick Meaney, Connor Watson, Beau Fermor and others out there having NRL careers too. None of them would have kicked on at the Knights. We're just not that good an environment.

Josh King and Nick Meaney may well be valued contributors to a premiership winning team this year.
Connor Watson on why he left the Knights and joined the Roosters - all too similar comments to Barny, Young, King, etc

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...s/news-story/376c2bf5fbb8fb37de23e3ad5eeac7cd
“I wanted to challenge myself and part of that is the expectations and reputation of the Roosters.

“You have got to come here and you have got to perform and play well here and you have to leave it all out there.

“I just felt like for me to take my career to the next level I needed a change of scenery and get out of my comfort zone and really challenge myself.

“I feel like this is the best place for me to come and take my game to the next level,” Watson said.
 
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So is it down to "we suck" or is it more.... playing with a good spine makes you look good.
The management suck no doubt. A decade after taking over and hardly a junior to be sighted, those key spine players that were 14-16 yr old when Wests took over should be just about to hit their straps as 24-26 yr old NRL players by now.

No doubt AOB has a portion of blame on this one - he sets the culture within the playing group. He signaled long ago it was OK to phone it in and still get selected every week.
 

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Leo leaving after we have let a senior prop leave is peak us. Can someone get a person with legitimate influence into this place! Please. Leo is using D Saf’s departure to posture for more money: I do not believe a word of Riccio’s development narrative. He is making up BS.
 
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Can someone please post the tele article ?

"As one of Newcastle's international stars considers heading to the open market, more fresh questions are raised over the Knights roster management overseen by CEO Phil Gardner."
ANALYSIS: bit.ly/4dtrnfr
 

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