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Poupou Escobar

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I don't disagree that it will make a difference. It will take us from competing with the bottom 4 to challenging to make the Top 8 with some luck, but I don't think it will make us a Top 4 team.

But one minute you say all we need is a half to make us a Top 4 team and then the next minute you think we need a completelely stronger squad...you cant have it both ways. We either need a stronger squad or we just need one player and that will automatically makes us a stronger squad.
A half will make us a top eight team. From there we can make the top four (probably too late this year).

We don't need an entirely new squad, but more quality players are always helpful. They will come in handy next year.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Let's not forget who his agent is. Moses has supposedly backflipped earlier this year. As did teddy a couple seasons ago. If he backflips, i dare say it's nothing more then a ploy by his agents to take his current club to the cleaners.
The important thing is not to get into bidding wars. We need another half but we don't need him to be an attacking gun like Mitchell. I would prefer an ordinary playmaker who can kick and tackle, like Townsend.
 

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The important thing is not to get into bidding wars. We need another half but we don't need him to be an attacking gun like Mitchell. I would prefer an ordinary playmaker who can kick and tackle, like Townsend.

I'm certain we won't be getting into any bidding wars. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if the club hasn't even factored Moses into their plans for this year or next year.
 

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I'd say Moses is now of the impression that Tedesco and Woods are going elsewhere, so he can see a bigger pay day coming his way at the Tigers.

I doubt Ivan will offer him a cent more though and he'll be quite disappointed.
It would be dumb of the Tigers to revise their offer after one game. As for Moses, I'm sure he would backflip if they gave him a bigger offer regardless of how the two clubs are playing.
 

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A half will make us a top eight team. From there we can make the top four (probably too late this year).

We don't need an entirely new squad, but more quality players are always helpful. They will come in handy next year.

A half will have us challenge for a top 8 spot with 14 other teams. At the moment, not having a half has us challenging for a bottom 4 spot with around 6 or 7 others.
 

Poupou Escobar

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A half will have us challenge for a top 8 spot with 14 other teams. At the moment, not having a half has us challenging for a bottom 4 spot with around 6 or 7 others.
No I think another half will make us top eight certainties.

At the moment we are a mid table side. We have played three teams that are currently in the top six (and two from last year's top four). We have also inexplicably been the only team to beat the Dragons and the only team to lose to the Titans. It's too early to write us off. On paper we're solid, and six games doesn't change that.
 

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No I think another half will make us top eight certainties.

At the moment we are a mid table side. We have played three teams that are currently in the top six (and two from last year's top four). We have also inexplicably been the only team to beat the Dragons and the only team to lose to the Titans. It's too early to write us off. On paper we're solid, and six games doesn't change that.

We're still on paper not as good or only equally as good as 12 other teams if we had a half (We'd be better than Knights, Titans and Tigers only). It's debatable once Titans are full strength that they wouldnt be as good or better than us.

You seem to make these ridiculously outlandish statements about the team taking no consideration the standard of the other NRL teams.
 

Poupou Escobar

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We're still on paper not as good or only equally as good as 12 other teams if we had a half (We'd be better than Knights, Titans and Tigers only). It's debatable once Titans are full strength that they wouldnt be as good or better than us.

You seem to make these ridiculously outlandish statements about the team taking no consideration the standard of the other NRL teams.
Of course I consider the quality of the opposition. We actually have some very good players, but they are all under the pump due to our having only half a kicking game. Prior to this year we've always had two genuine kickers, except when Joe Paulo played in the halves.

I also see form as far less important than quality. After round two merkins thought we would win the comp. Now we're struggling to avoid the wooden spoon. You dopes need some perspective.
 
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Glenneel

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We need an, aggressive big prop. I hope Kane Evans becomes that prop in 2018.
Liked Evans a few years ago but appears to have gone off boil for some time now. Warning: Whenever Chooks willing to let a player go you know he is in decline! Mennings come to mind?
 

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A half will make us a top eight team. From there we can make the top four (probably too late this year).

We don't need an entirely new squad, but more quality players are always helpful. They will come in handy next year.
How will another half stop us continually losing the ruck and getting slaughtered up the guts????
 

IFR33K

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The important thing is not to get into bidding wars. We need another half but we don't need him to be an attacking gun like Mitchell. I would prefer an ordinary playmaker who can kick and tackle, like Townsend.


Yeah mate I'm sick of bidding wars. Saying that players are losing their integrity and I'm also sick of that too. SMMFINGH :face_palm:♂️
 

hineyrulz

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Of course I consider the quality of the opposition. We actually have some very good players, but they are all under the pump due to our having only half a kicking game. Prior to this year we've always had two genuine kickers, except when Joe Paulo played in the halves.

I also see form as far less important than quality. After round two merkins thought we would win the comp. Now we're struggling to avoid the wooden spoon. You dopes need some perspective.
Who said we would win the comp???

Stop making shit up to support your BS, I must be the only one that thought we were very average against Manly and while pleased with our attack thought our defence wasn't that flash against the Drsgons.
 

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How will another half stop us continually losing the ruck and getting slaughtered up the guts????


Another half will help normie control a game, get decent kicks away, take advantage of field position and possession, get repeat sets and create opportunities out wide (like Foran did for warriors). This will have an effect on possession and the like and tire out the opposition forwards (like we did last year).

It's just basic rl knowledge.
 

Glenneel

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We need another half, we are basically playing with one half. The Gutherson experiment has failed, basically as he has no kicking game and is learning on the job. It may have worked if we had an experienced ball
playing fullback rather then two "L" platers in the 1 and 6.

Last week and parts of the game I watched today, it really appears our main problem is our attacking decisions are struggling. The opposition just really needs to pressure Norman and we have no second option. It's too easy to defend.

I don't think we have been terrible the last two weeks and we are not that far away.

Putting Moses in the side will make a massive difference!!
Then add a "top line" forward and I think we will see a totally different side.

We are close!!
We are close alright, close to the bottom of the table. What that's all? Think dummy half is our biggest problem right now. Defence poor and no attacking options from him either therefor Norman has to cover for Kritchard also.
No offloading from forwards and nobody supporting the ball carrier. Compare our attack with Dragons. They were super impressive and we were super poor.
 
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