Rumours and Stuff

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Surely the aim is to prolong life rather than shorten it...

I don't think it is necessarily as simple as that. The issue of whether the state should stop someone taking steps that harm themselves isn't a 'no brainer'. At what point do you apply this? We all do things that expose us to higher / lower risks. Which of these forms of behaviour deserve a law stopping us from doing them? Should we prolong the life a terminally ill person in great pain? I dunno. Should we stop people from eating unhealthy foods? This is a question that doesn't ultimately relies on value judgements.....and I'm happy to accept that people have different values to my own....just seems that some aren't so happy to reciprocate.

 

[Happy MEel]

I don't think it is necessarily as simple as that. The issue of whether the state should stop someone taking steps that harm themselves isn't a 'no brainer'. At what point do you apply this? We all do things that expose us to higher / lower risks. Which of these forms of behaviour deserve a law stopping us from doing them? Should we prolong the life a terminally ill person in great pain? I dunno. Should we stop people from eating unhealthy foods? This is a question that doesn't ultimately relies on value judgements.....and I'm happy to accept that people have different values to my own....just seems that some aren't so happy to reciprocate.

Agreed. However, there are plenty of examples of the state making that judgement and implementing an intervention when a behaviour is proven to significantly increase risk of harm. (BAC limits, seat belts, no jab no pay, lockout laws etc.). I honestly believe it's only a matter of time before tobacco is made illegal with it being phased out based on your dat of birth (eg. It is illegal to sell tobacco to anyone born from 2000 onwards).

 

[Happy MEel]

I'll add that IMO, generally the state intervenes when society as a whole (or at least a significant portion of the population) is too stupid to make rational decisions for themselves that place themselves and/or others at risk.

 

[Bazal]

I'll add that IMO, generally the state intervenes when society as a whole (or at least a significant portion of the population) is too stupid to make rational decisions for themselves.

Then we should be living in a dictatorship, tbh....society is pretty fking stupid.

 

[hindy111]

Good on her. I like Jacqui Lambie. Her son is/was an ice-addict and was in a long-term rehab. Maybe still is. I think she had a pretty hard time with him, as a single mum.

Im attracted to her......sexually

 

[Happy MEel]

Then we should be living in a dictatorship, tbh....society is pretty fking stupid.

Some people (like the knob ends in the liberal democrats) would argue that we are.

 

[Bazal]

Im attracted to her......sexually

WTF? She looks like some kind of subterranean burrowing mammal that's been smacked in the face with a shovel during a difficult extraction and then dipped in fake tan...

 

[Swiftstylez]

Then we should be living in a dictatorship, tbh....society is pretty fking stupid.

Some people (like the knob ends in the liberal democrats) would argue that we are.

No, no one argues that. They argue for free speech and small government. Government is huge in Australia

 

[hindy111]

Out here in pantherland all is not well. They are turning on the Duke. Get ready for a shake up

 

[Bazal]

Some people (like the knob ends in the liberal democrats) would argue that we are.

Yeah but they're diet anarchists....sorry, libertarians....

 

[Swiftstylez]

Yeah but they're diet anarchists....sorry, libertarians....

The current head of that party is not reflective of what it means to be a libertarian and will probably be gone soon anyway

 

[Johnny88]

Ben Barba axed from French rugby club Toulon
http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/be...n/news-story/e3ddd96aca47d9d8a9180ea4a2c049fe

Also back page of Tele.

 

[Bazal]

I'm not quite sure what that means. Am I communist? Am I in danger from communists? Am I going to find myself in a situation whereby spotting an outdated and failed political ideology will fill my life with mirth?

 

[El Diablo]

WTF? She looks like some kind of subterranean burrowing mammal that's been smacked in the face with a shovel during a difficult extraction and then dipped in fake tan...

still looks better than Gus

 

[Swiftstylez]

It's the argument that communist regime supporters use when they look at free democracies... so yes, to all the above.

Socialists are secretly the exact same.

 

[hindy111]

WTF? She looks like some kind of subterranean burrowing mammal that's been smacked in the face with a shovel during a difficult extraction and then dipped in fake tan...

I reckon fingers would be going places not meant to go.

 

[Bazal]

still looks better than Gus

Well shit if that's your entire standard I expect to see news of your engagement to Blocker Roach in the coming days....

 

[El Diablo]

They are turning on the Duke

are you?

does he know you have a liking for Lambie?

 

[Bazal]

It's the argument that communist regime supporters use when they look at free democracies... so yes, to all the above.

Socialists are secretly the exact same.

People are dumbest in large groups. Nothing to do with communism, it's to do with the fact that people are just not very bright by and large.

 

[El Diablo]

Well shit if that's your entire standard I expect to see news of your engagement to Blocker Roach in the coming days....

he's not my love interest