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Noise

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When did Sandow ever attempt 30 tackles?

And when did Moses? Stats I have show the most attempts (made and missed) he has this year are 24 (last night and last week)

Moses worst defensive game this year was round 3. Made 12 tackles, missed 8. Very Sandow-esque. And I'll put my hand up as one of those who actually thought Sandow would be good for us.
 
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Poupou Escobar

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I've got Moses with 17 tackles and missed 7 form last night. Still more than Sandow's last game but not the 20 plus you are talking about
As long as you're comparing from the same compiler the point stands. Moses isn't hiding. And fatigue gets everyone.
 

Bazal

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And I'm saying Moses still puts in defensively. He made 21 tackles last night and missed six. Sandow shirked even when we were doing well.

Moses misses a lot because he's not a great defender, and this is compounded by being part of probably the worst edge defence in the competition at the moment. Brooks made half the attempts at pretty much the same miss rate, so if he'd have been targeted for 30 odd tackles instead would we have even noticed Moses?
 

Poupou Escobar

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And when did Moses? Stats I have show the most attempts (made and missed) he has this year are 24 (last night and last week)
http://www.nrl.com/stats/telstrapremiership/playerstatistics/tabid/10877/default.aspx
Moses worst defensive game this year was round 3. Made 12 tackles, missed 8. Very Sandow-esque. And I'll put my hand up as one of those who actually thought Sandow would be good for us.
The difference is Sandow avoided attempting tackles (despite being so heavily targeted).
 

IFR33K

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What showed to me last night was the lack of mental capacity to put in for his team mates despite his predicament.... the old adage of " poor kid doesn't want to be there" excuse just doesn't sit well with me given that we're paying him marquee coin to represent our club... I got from being relatively excited to being really concerned in 80 minutes last night...

I fear this could be a sandow situation all over again and if it is it will cost BA his
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Have you ever seen a person do a job they aren't happy doing? It's always half hearted.

Re the last line, that's a huge call.
 

Bazal

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Have you ever seen a person do a job they aren't happy doing? It's always half hearted.

Re the last line, that's a huge call.

Yeah I can't see it costing BA his job. Even if he turns out shit, he's probably second or third best half on the market.

Can't sack a coach for signing one of the better available options IMO. Although this is Parramatta I suppose....
 

Twizzle

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If BA can see something in Moses then he must think he can make a decent half out of him and I'd trust his instincts, he done OK with this rabble so far
 

Stagger eel

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Have you ever seen a person do a job they aren't happy doing? It's always half hearted.

Re the last line, that's a huge call.

Mate, he would be doing the same job if he was with us... don't tell me it's because of where his pay check is coming from ??

And it's not a huge call at all ... both are marque signings and similar age when we signed them..
 

chiefy1

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Sandow was a dead set bum who turned up first day at pre season training 15kgs overweight, and then blamed everything from gambling problems to drinking on his bad form, and only ever signed with Parramatta for the dollars.

Anyone who even slightly compares Mitchell Moses to Sandow should be banned from this site forever. Period!
 
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IFR33K

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Mate, he would be doing the same job if he was with us... don't tell me it's because of where his pay check is coming from ??

And it's not a huge call at all ... both are marque signings and similar age when we signed them..


Sandow was a dud signing from the outset. Moses still has room for improvement
 

Stagger eel

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Chiefy, we're fans... it's not our job to concern ourselves what they get up to off the field ... we'll leave that for the head coach and club ..
The fact remains both are/was marquee signings, both was/will be central play makers and both did/will be defending as spot players on the edge and Moses will be heavily targeted as was sandow who was rarely protected by his inside and outside men ..
Assuming he'll defend on the right edge you wanna hope teps and the right centre whoever it will be are well prepared ..
 

I bleed blue & gold

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The big thing that Moses will have on his side when he joins us is that he is playing in a better side than the Tigers. He will also be playing in a much better side than Sandow did. As bad as Chrissy was, for the most part we were a rabble and we not able to offer him much help at all.

Maloney is a weak defender but has played in some pretty decent sides that have been able to help him out in defence. IIRC Normy was not a good defender when he joined us, he has improved though.

If Moses really wants to improve his defence, i think BA and his staff will give his the best chance possible.
 

Noise

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Chiefy, we're fans... it's not our job to concern ourselves what they get up to off the field ... we'll leave that for the head coach and club ..
The fact remains both are/was marquee signings, both was/will be central play makers and both did/will be defending as spot players on the edge and Moses will be heavily targeted as was sandow who was rarely protected by his inside and outside men ..
Assuming he'll defend on the right edge you wanna hope teps and the right centre whoever it will be are well prepared ..

Poor teps had to deal with defending next to Sandow when he first came in
 

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