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Bazal

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well are they off contract?? (I thought Terapo was done and windsreens signed a 2 year extension last year)

I may be wrong on O'Brien, I'm just going off the zero tackle off contract list and it's never been 100% accurate but I've certainly not seen anything re Terepo re-signing.

So if they're not being retained Lawrence is a handy signing (hypothetically). But I'm more interested in why it means our cap isn't great? I would think you would have more info than just a potential depth signing to make that comment so I'm curious, as your info is generally good.
 

Stagger eel

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I may be wrong on O'Brien, I'm just going off the zero tackle off contract list and it's never been 100% accurate but I've certainly not seen anything re Terepo re-signing.

So if they're not being retained Lawrence is a handy signing (hypothetically). But I'm more interested in why it means our cap isn't great? I would think you would have more info than just a potential depth signing to make that comment so I'm curious, as your info is generally good.

ok, maybe I should choose my words carefully, I think we don't have as much as space or room to move as people think...but from what I understand, we're in a better position than a few other clubs who have spent over and still waiting on the direction the NRL are going to take with squad numbers and cap amount. (see squad succession thread)
 

Bazal

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ok, maybe I should choose my words carefully, I think we don't have as much as space or room to move as people think...but from what I understand, we're in a better position than a few other clubs who have spent over and still waiting on the direction the NRL are going to take with squad numbers and cap amount. (see squad succession thread)

I do think a lot of people are operating under the impression (delusion?) that the NRL will buckle to the clubs that have gone and overspent and set a higher cap. Which actually would be bad for us because it would mean that no clubs are forced to release players and we might wind up playing well under the cap....

So basically we have a bit of money, but depending on what the cap is we may have "solid signing" money rather than "quality signing" money?
 

84 Baby

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ok, maybe I should choose my words carefully, I think we don't have as much as space or room to move as people think...but from what I understand, we're in a better position than a few other clubs who have spent over and still waiting on the direction the NRL are going to take with squad numbers and cap amount. (see squad succession thread)
I've heard a rumour that, along with the clubs that are banking on the nrl to cave, there are a couple of clubs (with suspected more pull with nrl) that have gone over a little bit and if the nrl don't cave they'll argue they shouldn't be penalised for nrls slowness. So they'll have definite advantage next season plus potential to double down that advantage for years after
 

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People need to look at next year. All we lost is Semi and replaced with Moses who would cost a whole lot more.Also Kane Evans would be costing atleast 300k.
Even if we where 800k under the cap this year there is Moses money. Semi was only on 250k odd. And sure the cap goes up but I am sure guys like Gutherson,Bevan need decent upgrades.
While other plays contracts probably have increased contracts knowing cap was going up.
This year wasnt a year for debutants but next year Ray Stone and Niakuore maybe NRL hopefulls along with Dana Aka and GL. Thats potentially 4 cheap options.
 

84 Baby

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People need to look at next year. All we lost is Semi and replaced with Moses who would cost a whole lot more.Also Kane Evans would be costing atleast 300k.
Even if we where 800k under the cap this year there is Moses money. Semi was only on 250k odd. And sure the cap goes up but I am sure guys like Gutherson,Bevan need decent upgrades.
While other plays contracts probably have increased contracts knowing cap was going up.
This year wasnt a year for debutants but next year Ray Stone and Niakuore maybe NRL hopefulls along with Dana Aka and GL. Thats potentially 4 cheap options.
Gunco & French aren't off contract until end of 2019 so they don't need upgrades for awhile
 

Poupou Escobar

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Whatever they're on this year probably isn't what they'll be on next year anyway. Contracts would usually be stepped/back-ended to take advantage of the rising salary cap.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I would be very surprised if he asks for a release. Though with Frawley now in the mix, and the Dogs allegedly looking for cap space, would they let him go early? Would do us a big favour but the Dogs aren't in business to do us favours.
 

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I would be very surprised if he asks for a release. Though with Frawley now in the mix, and the Dogs allegedly looking for cap space, would they let him go early? Would do us a big favour but the Dogs aren't in business to do us favours.
I hope so. His defence is first class. Probably one of the best defensive hookers in the comp. His attack has been thwarted by Des.

PS Peats was ordinary last night.
 

IFR33K

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I would be very surprised if he asks for a release. Though with Frawley now in the mix, and the Dogs allegedly looking for cap space, would they let him go early? Would do us a big favour but the Dogs aren't in business to do us favours.


Got informed he has. Not sure how true it is. The sticky point is dogs are attempting to snare peats. Time will tell.
 

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Got informed he has. Not sure how true it is. The sticky point is dogs are attempting to snare peats. Time will tell.
f**k, that'll do me if the Dogs land Peats.... they're going to upgrade from a 300-350K hooker to a 600K hooker in Peats in addition to signing Foran and Woods to accompnay fellow Origin players Jackson, Klemmer and Morris... Yep, salary cap is working a treat!!
 

Avenger

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f**k, that'll do me if the Dogs land Peats.... they're going to upgrade from a 300-350K hooker to a 600K hooker in Peats in addition to signing Foran and Woods to accompnay fellow Origin players Jackson, Klemmer and Morris... Yep, salary cap is working a treat!!
Don't forget James Graham. He'd be on a bit.
 

hineyrulz

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f**k, that'll do me if the Dogs land Peats.... they're going to upgrade from a 300-350K hooker to a 600K hooker in Peats in addition to signing Foran and Woods to accompnay fellow Origin players Jackson, Klemmer and Morris... Yep, salary cap is working a treat!!
Don't worry mate Todd assured us the only club cheating the cap is us.

He's very confident of that.
 

The Colonel

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f**k, that'll do me if the Dogs land Peats.... they're going to upgrade from a 300-350K hooker to a 600K hooker in Peats in addition to signing Foran and Woods to accompnay fellow Origin players Jackson, Klemmer and Morris... Yep, salary cap is working a treat!!

Old Back End Des! They won't have a cap
problem until he leaves.
 

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