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hindy111

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Why would you want Keppie over T rex?

T rex at worse will be a fill in interchange player. At best he best could be rep quality and the middle ground a top 17 player.
Keppie id assume would be demanding simmilar money. Forget 3yrs time as his value will change. But right now his best is NSW cup starting position.
Next year it maybe be first grade fill in player or at best interchange player with limited minutes.
2020 is maybe when he could become a genuine starting prop or top 17 picked player.
If we have to pay overs for 2 seasons before he can give us anything better then we have only to then pay him whst he is then worth wouldnt it be a complete waste of time and money?

T rex could be a super signing. He may give us the tackle breaking 2nd rower we lack. His time at the dogs was wasted with two very ordinary ball playing halves who could not isolate him one on one.
The style we play and with guys like Moses, Norman and Hayne I want T rex somewhere in the team. The guy isnt too old and if can get fit will be a weapon.
 

hindy111

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I'd hazard a guess that only hard core fans know much about juniors. Most fans don't give a shit and only want to win. If we won a premiership with no juniors I know i wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

Hollow win. Means more when a core of players are together for a while. Like the Sharks and Cowboys when won it. Was special. Or panthers in 2003.
 
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Well if they're no good in NSW Cup then you don't even offer them a top 30 spot as a backup. Do you think any player ever played NRL without playing reserve grade first?

Bevan French went straight to 1st grade while still in u20s without playing Nsw cup. As did Tim Mannah, If I'm wrong I apologise.

A lot depends on how good they are & injuries,

Ideally clubs would prefer to put in Nsw cup 1st but sometimes circumstances don't allow it unless your real special.

But I do understand what your saying, If a play cant handle reserve grade there is no chance they will handle 1st grade
 
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Gary Gutful

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The problem I feel with a draft system is the connection supporters like to have with juniors.
Every supporter has a soft spot for home grown talent. I will always prefer to see Tepai, Bevan, Alvaro come good over say a Beau Scott or Nathan Brown. Take away the link between clubs and juniors and that family feel may dissapear. Is the game big enough for that ? I am unsure.
Say the nrl owned all juniors and clubs drafted them heaps of fans would also take less interest in juniors coming through.

I like the current set up. Even if we have them poached it is still fun to talk about and wonder who will or wont make it.
The draft offers just as many talking points.

Also, how many juniors do clubs successfully cultivate? Supporters of clubs with strong junior bases are always complaining about how other clubs poach them. I would also beg to differ about fans and juniors. Only the hardcore fans on LU follow the progress of juniors. Lots of fans would struggle to name anyone outside the top 25.

Its not the biggest priority for the game but I have often thought that there is a need for improved second and third tier competitions that create better pathways for juniors. We are losing a lot of youngsters to other codes and only the absolute cream of the crop seem to have a pathway to first grade.

These competitions could operate independently of the clubs themselves and then link to an NRL draft system. I know we don't have the college system that the US have but that doesn't mean that some sort of proxy couldn't work for the NRL.

A big change I know but something that I think would result in a better overall system than what we have at the moment.
 
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Gary Gutful

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I'd hazard a guess that only hard core fans know much about juniors. Most fans don't give a shit and only want to win. If we won a premiership with no juniors I know i wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
You and most other supporters I suspect.
 
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I'd hazard a guess that only hard core fans know much about juniors. Most fans don't give a shit and only want to win. If we won a premiership with no juniors I know i wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

Well when your a Parramatta supporter & our last premiership was many years ago, You have no choice supporting juniors.
When Parramatta dominates junior rugby league & our 1st grade hasn't won a premiership in 30 years watching the juniors be so successful eases the pain somewhat
 

hindy111

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Bevan French went straight to 1st grade while still in u20s without playing Nsw cup. As did Tim Mannah, If I'm wrong I apologise.

A lot depends on how good they are & injuries,

Ideally clubs would prefer to put in Nsw cup 1st but sometimes circumstances don't allow it unless your real special.

But I do understand what your saying, If a play cant handle reserve grade there is no chance they will handle 1st grade

Tepai?
 

Glenneel

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My perception is that the greater his status has become, the more forward passes let go. Can anyone remember the last time he was called for a forward pass? It's a thing because it's real (and also because he's quite good). Still gets away with murder.
By murder do you mean he goes to sleep on top of a tackled player and never gets pulled up for it?
 

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