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Basil Brush

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No you fill in the gaps. What do you think I'm making up? More importantly, why do you think Hayne is best at centre for us?
You say hayne was last in endurance in his last stint here so that is why he wasnt playing in spine. He got a dally m at fullback

Read my previous posts about Hayne in centres and balance. That is why this all started.

You seem like a complete bullshit artist who just writes a lot of words to throw people off your crap.
 
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Poupou Escobar

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You say hayne was last in endurance in his last stint here so that is why he wasnt playing in spine. He got a dally m at fullback
I said it's why he's not playing in the spine now. Obviously he played fullback back then. We were a shit team and he was our best player. Where else would we have played him?
Read my previous posts about Hayne in centres and balance. That is why this all started.
What balance are you talking about? Don't try to weasel out of this one. Why would we be more balanced with Hayne at centre? You just said he won a Dally M at fullback FFS! So why would we play him at centre?
You seem like a complete bullshit artist who just writes a lot of words to throw people off your crap.
I write a lot of stuff because I'm trying a dozen different ways of saying the same thing to hopefully get through to you f**king idiots.
 

Basil Brush

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I said it's why he's not playing in the spine now. Obviously he played fullback back then. We were a shit team and he was our best player. Where else would we have played him?

What balance are you talking about? Don't try to weasel out of this one. Why would we be more balanced with Hayne at centre? You just said he won a Dally M at fullback FFS! So why would we play him at centre?

I write a lot of stuff because I'm trying a dozen different ways of saying the same thing to hopefully get through to you f**king idiots.
I like to call out bullshit artists and you are the best.

You never said in your previous post "its why he's not playing in the spine now". Prob should read your post. Bullshit point 1.

You said some crap about he was last in endurance in his last stint according to Brad Arthur. Please provide the quote. Bullshit point 2.

You even brought up Radradra. Please quote again. Bullshit point 3.

There is only 1 fckn idiot on this site and i am unfortunately arguing with the idiot.

Edit. Your post is 2 posts below.
 
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Basil Brush

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Brad Arthur said he used to run last when he was here last time. So did Semi Radradra. Arthur said it's fine because they're not endurance athletes. It doesn't mean they're not putting in, or it wouldn't be fine. They just don't have the aerobic capacity.

That's why they play in the outside backs and not in the spine.
This is your post, if you somehow forgot.
 
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Poupou Escobar

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I like to call out bullshit artists and you are the best.

You never said in your previous post "its why he's not playing in the spine now". Prob should read your post. Bullshit point 1.

You said some crap about he was last in endurance in his last stint according to Brad Arthur. Please provide the quote. Bullshit point 2.

You even brought up Radradra. Please quote again. Bullshit point 3.

There is only 1 fckn idiot on this site and i am unfortunately arguing with the idiot.

Edit. Your post is 2 posts below.
Arthur said all this stuff in recent interviews. They should be on the official site. You can find them yourself.
 

Basil Brush

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Now all that’s out of the way, why do you think Hayne is now playing centre, despite winning Dally M awards at fullback?
For the last time, it is for the better of the team.

He is easily our best fullback but probaby in our top 3 centres. There are no other options than Hayne in the centres unless Taka moves back there or Gutho can play centre.
Arthur said all this stuff in recent interviews. They should be on the official site. You can find them yourself.
I will assume he never said it and you are full of shit as usual.

If you prove me wrong, i will apologise.
 

Poupou Escobar

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For the last time, it is for the better of the team.

He is easily our best fullback but probaby in our top 3 centres. There are no other options than Hayne in the centres unless Taka moves back there or Gutho can play centre.
Gutherson and Auva’a can both play centre. Auva’a won a premiership at centre.
I will assume he never said it and you are full of shit as usual.

If you prove me wrong, i will apologise.
I don’t need your apology. I don’t even care if you believe me. Plenty of other merkins around here know what Arthur said.
 

Basil Brush

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Gutherson and Auva’a can both play centre. Auva’a won a premiership at centre.

I don’t need your apology. I don’t even care if you believe me. Plenty of other merkins around here know what Arthur said.
I will hopefully end this by saying i love your passion for our great club.

We both support the same club.

However i hate people making stuff up on the internet as there are no ramifications.

All the best Pou.
 

hindy111

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Except he doesn't. He has the worst endurance in our team.

You're missing the point. He probably would win another Dally M at fullback but we would be worse as a team because Hayne would again be the only merkin doing anything noticeable.

But what wouldn't be noticeable to most fans would be the lack of a fullback constantly supporting all our other runners - forwards and halves - which is what you get with a harder working but slower/weaker/less skilled fullback like Gutherson, French or Billy Slater. Having this player around the ball makes it easier for all his team mates because it puts defenders in two minds, stopping them getting numbers into the tackle. It means your whole attack goes better.

With Hayne at fullback you don't get this whole team advantage, you just get an extra couple of dozen metres and maybe another line break or assist from Hayne. He would certainly stand out more than he would at centre but the rest of the team would go worse. This is why Arthur bangs on about 'effort areas'. It's not just coach speak about working hard. The extra movement off the ball has a genuine effect on the whole attack. It's why there are no big spine players any more. They need to be the hardest working merkins in the team.


Its like stamina...Think in the bedroom. Hayne more a 2 minute screamer while Gould i mean Gutherson is like tantric master.
 

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It took me a while to get Pou. Then in another thread i used a hero and villain term exasctly the same as him. You will get him one day. Takes a certain inteligence.
 

Basil Brush

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It took me a while to get Pou. Then in another thread i used a hero and villain term exasctly the same as him. You will get him one day. Takes a certain inteligence.
I like Pou but it takes a strong man to admit he is wrong.

I have never seen him admit he is wrong.

He just changes the parameters.
 
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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/ho...w-playing-for-his-legacy-20180309-p4z3pg.html

Home and happy, Jarryd Hayne now playing for his legacy

Jarryd Hayne is sitting in a cafe at Bondi Junction.

The human headline has just returned from his NFL stint and speculation about his next career move is at fever pitch, which is why he’s chosen one of the booths out the back. He is waiting for his mate and confidante, Hayden Knowles, to arrive and the last thing he needs is to be seen sipping a latte in Roosters territory with one of their staffers.
So when Knowles walks in, decked out in Roosters kit, Hayne goes spare.

“He made me take my Roosters shirt off,” Knowles recalled.

“It was no secret that the Roosters were interested in him at the time. Everywhere he went, someone spotted him and it was another headline.

“He sat me down and basically told me he was going to Parra. So I went back to the Roosters and told them, ‘We’ve got no chance, Parra is where his heart is at’.

“A week later, he was at the Titans.”

Hayne has finally made his way home. The 30-year-old is, belatedly, fulfilling what was trumpeted as a ‘lifetime agreement’ to return to the blue and golds. He has sacrificed $700,000 to do so in an acknowledgement that, for the first time, Hayne needs Parramatta more than Parramatta needs Hayne.

“People often skip past that. You ask anyone whether they would give up $700k to move jobs and go somewhere else,” said another of Hayne’s closest mates, Eels skipper Tim Mannah.

“That’s a huge sign of faith in Brad Arthur and the club.

“He always knew he wanted to come back. He knows he belongs here.

“Over the last couple of years you could tell he wasn’t really comfortable with where he’s at, but being back here around his family and friends, he looks himself.”

Everything Hayne does is newsworthy. When he goes to Kings Cross, shots are fired in his direction. A day at the beach results in him pulling an Irish backpacker from the surf. It’s hardly a surprise that his first game back would be a milestone match.

“A lot of the teams at Parramatta revolved around Hayne and they were disappointed when he left the club,” said Ricky Stuart, who not only coached him at club and Origin level but also made him an Eels captain.

“That’s all in the past now and he has a great opportunity to pay that respect back to them through performance.

“He can now finish off where he first started.”
What happens now is how Hayne will be remembered. Many felt that when he moved on, Parramatta did as well. The team’s winning percentage with Hayne in it was 45.5 per cent. Without him, the figure climbs to 51.4 per cent. He may no longer be the man, just a centre, but is always the centre of attention.

“It’s an amazing thing, the obsession with Jarryd Hayne,” said TripADeal founder Norm Black, the personal sponsor who shelled out $400,000 a season to lure him to the glitter strip.

“We will certainly miss the media coverage that came with Jarryd. There's no doubt he is a different cat, but there’s no malice in him.

“He lives and breathes Parramatta. He could have copped $1.2 million to stay at the Titans. If he was a mercenary, he would have stayed and taken the money.

“We reflect back on that journey with him and we look at it in a positive light.”

It’s unlikely Gold Coast officials share the sentiment. Not all publicity is good publicity. In hindsight, ending up anywhere but at Parramatta was a mistake. In belatedly coming back, without the burden of captaincy or expectation of being or wearing the No.1, Hayne has a chance to finish on his terms.

“His comments have been around the team and how he can best help the team now. That’s a different approach for him to take,” said another of his former Eels mentors, Michael Hagan.

“He’s in a different point in his career now. It’s a bit back to the future, coming back to where he started and played most of his junior footy.

“He went to Westfield Sports High and is a genuine product of Western Sydney. It’s certainly appropriate that he finds himself back where he started.

“There’s no question that Parramatta fans hold him in high regard with the number of games he’s played for them and getting them into the grand final in 2009. It’s a fitting way for him to celebrate 200 games.”

Some Parramatta fans are still unsure what to make of it all. It’s unlikely Hayne, or anyone else for that matter, will ever reproduce the form that earned him his first Dally M medal. Of more concern is the way he left the Gold Coast a smouldering ruin. But more than anything, the Eels faithful have no sense of the man. For all the words written about ‘The Plane’, few understand what makes him tick.

Hayne’s circle of friends is a small one. Before he left for his NFL expedition, he held a farewell dinner. Those in attendance included current Eels Mannah, Michael Jennings and Tony Williams. It’s a pointer as to why he was so keen to come home.

Another mate, Bryce Poisel, has long been on the scene and was literally on Hayne’s journey. Hayne flew Poisel across to watch him play for the 49ers, but the latter knew something was amiss when he hit the tarmac. Still in the plane, he turned on his phone and dozens of messages immediately pinged in. Before he had a chance to check them, a frantic Hayne was on the line, breaking bad news. The 49ers had waived him. He never played another NFL match.
“I still remember the day, it was Halloween when it happened,” Poisel said.

“People have short memories. He’s had as many bad times as good.”

What Poisel said next will surprise. Hayne’s American expedition was filmed almost from start to finish, but this is something the cameras didn’t show.

“One night a week, he would go around San Fran and feed the homeless off his own bat,” Poisel said.

“He saw they had a lot of food left over from their cafeteria, so he asked the chef to box it up. He does things like that that people don’t see.”

The sentiments are echoed by Kevin Naiqama, Hayne’s captain during Fiji’s World Cup campaign.

“It was the first time I got to know him as a person,” Naiqama said.

“We were pretty much roomies for the whole World Cup campaign and it was good to know who Jarryd Hayne was behind the footballer.

“He’s really down to earth, a real nice guy. How he’s perceived in the media, you can’t control that. He is someone I definitely consider a friend right after football.”

Hayne version 2.0 doesn’t need to star at Parramatta, but he must buy in. Those who have played alongside him in his first Eels stint feel that wasn’t always the case. Nathan Hindmarsh has occasionally chipped him publicly, at one point describing him as “frustrating”. There have never been kind words about his work ethic.

However, those close to him believe the best stories are yet to be written.

“When he desperately wants to do something, he does it,” Knowles said.

“He really wanted to go back to Parra, that’s why it will work.”

When he walked out on the Eels, officials took down the giant Hayne poster that had hung outside the leagues club. If he is part of a premiership team, it will be hoisted again and remain there forever.
Who said the media dont write nice stories?
 

Happy MEel

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Brad Arthur said he used to run last when he was here last time. So did Semi Radradra. Arthur said it's fine because they're not endurance athletes. It doesn't mean they're not putting in, or it wouldn't be fine. They just don't have the aerobic capacity.

That's why they play in the outside backs and not in the spine.
Running time trials isn’t the only endurance exercise we would do all off season. I also think that would have been an off the cuff remark from BA in response to journos having a go at Hayne (if they were said at all). I can’t see Hayne finishing behind the likes of Junior Paulo and Pauli Pauli in any kind of aerobic contest.
 

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Arthur said all this stuff in recent interviews. They should be on the official site. You can find them yourself.
I actually think it was just "the media" saying hayne came last ... i think Arthur said hayne and semi are not gonna win the endurane tasks

I think the original story of the sandhills endurance thing was written that arthur and his kid beat hayne, but never said hayne came last .... someone has later run with it and written hayne comes last in endurance tasks
 

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