Rumours and Stuff

[Stevie]

How about this for a swap.
Farrah to Raiders
Sezer to Dogs
Tolman to Sharks
Austin to Rabbits

Fox sports saying its all due to happen.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

This is what the sad part is, we should not be regressing after 2016 and 2017 we should be building and building towards a premiership.

I know it’s early days but to be saying we are to good to get the spook is ludicrous, we should be talking about winning the comp.

Why should we improve every year? Does the salary cap no longer apply to us? There’s a good chance that we got maximum value under the cap last year while this year we are getting less. The idea that a team can just improve every year to an inevitable premiership is not informed by reality.

We also very well could have missed our premiership window in 2016

I think it’s very possible.

but moving backwards after the past 2 years is fast from acceptable.

If 2016-17 was a peak then it is inevitable we will be worse immediately following it. That is the nature of a peak.

What is unacceptable is following a peak with instant mediocrity, though plenty of clubs have done it. I expect us to make the eight this year, with top four again a possibility. That is realistic.

 

[Glenneel]

Would be silly to select a rookie who wasnt ready but sometimes you get surprised. Youth also brings enthusiasm. They lift. Ive seen it hundreds of times.

Ive followed this wonderful club for 54 years and Ive seen some fantastic rookies grow once exposed to more experienced players. Were they the finished article when given their initial chance? Far from it.
Im old school OA. I think fondly of the days watching the Under23s, the Reserves and the Firsts. Some of the greatest memories I have are spotting a likely junior and watching him succeed.
Maybe those days are gone. Such a pity.
Just my thoughts

Exactly Gazza, you never know how some turn out when exposed to fg. Some thrive, some don't do much and some take some time to become good. I'll mention names of 3 players Parra thougt were not good enough to play fg so let go. Maloney (think may have played a few games in fg), Keary and Moses. During our dark days of winning the spoon we were desperately looking for a halfback to direct our shit team around. Someone decent may have stopped us winning the spoon in those days.

 

[Glenneel]

And since Mannah is on $1M per year, it's obvious that local juniors actually DON'T accept less money to play for us. So there's no need to offer them contracts in the hope that they're good enough in three or four years time.

Some player/s in our squad must be paid more than we think he/they are as we don't have much money left in the cap and looking thru our squad few jump out at you as champions. Even our halves are underpaid compared with most of the squads.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Some player/s in our squad must be paid more than we think he/they are as we don't have much money left in the cap and looking thru our squad few jump out at you as champions. Even our halves are underpaid compared with most of the squads.

But we have a good amount of first graders, meaning we never have to stick reserve graders (or rookies) on the field.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Wasn't John West the one the Dogs rejected?

No!! He is the gun sharks junior who they were pissed of in losing!! We got under their guard by offering a development contract (or even a top 30 spot), just like Manly did to us!!

And he is only 19 this year!!

 

[Gazzamatta]

So if we picked a player to debut last season, and they played only one game and played like a busted arse in that game - I wonder if they would have won rookie of the year by default?
Its probably happened before. Some, not so shining lights amongst previous winners.

 

[Stevie]

New club product. The hovermau.

 

[Gazzamatta]

How about this for a swap.
Farrah to Raiders
Sezer to Dogs
Tolman to Sharks
Austin to Rabbits

Fox sports saying its all due to happen.

Goodness Ricky has some issues with 6s and 7s. Austin was talked up for Origin last year FFS.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Wasn't John West the one the Dogs rejected?

I'm going to assume John West means Jaeman Salmon. He was a Sharks player.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

No!! He is the gun sharks junior who they were pissed of in losing!! We got under their guard by offering a development contract (or even a top 30 spot), just like Manly did to us!!

And he is only 19 this year!!

Development contract this year.

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Exactly Gazza, you never know how some turn out when exposed to fg. Some thrive, some don't do much and some take some time to become good. I'll mention names of 3 players Parra thougt were not good enough to play fg so let go. Maloney (think may have played a few games in fg), Keary and Moses. During our dark days of winning the spoon we were desperately looking for a halfback to direct our shit team around. Someone decent may have stopped us winning the spoon in those days.

Geez, your first sentence was a positive start to that post....................................................

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Some thrive, some absolutely shit themselves and lose a tight game single-handedly. But surely it can't hurt just throwing the bloke out there to see what happens?!?

Unless, unlike Glenneel, you don't assume we are going to lose anyway. Then what-have-we-got-to-lose? is a really stupid attitude.

 

[84 Baby]

Some thrive, some absolutely shit themselves and lose a tight game single-handedly. But surely it can't hurt just throwing the bloke out there to see what happens?!?

Unless, unlike Glenneel, you don't assume we are going to lose anyway. Then what-have-we-got-to-lose? is a really stupid attitude.

I've done the calculations and I'm certain we need to win 23 games to even make the 8 so it's pretty do or die I think

 

[84 Baby]

New club product. The hovermau.

Old club product. Shithouse defence

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I've done the calculations and I'm certain we need to win 23 games to even make the 8 so it's pretty do or die I think

What's the worst that could happen?

 

[rugby league fan]

In GF two guys impressed me..Keppie and Younger Akafalou.
But I only saw one game. In other games Stone and Mahoney imprssed me

What GF was that mat

So which development player would you drop for him? GL? Maloney ? Stone? John west? Dane?

There is only so many spots available!!

100%
Will be interesting next year for 2019 Development players. I think the clubs are only allowed 6 Development players. I herd Dylan brow will be on one next year.? So someone must be getting promoted for that to happen.
You also have Tui, F. Utoikamanu, Salesi, Topou, Kaufusi, All vying for development contracts in the next year or 2.
Iv was informed Schneider upgraded and extended till 2020 so his deal must be ok for him to resign without a Development deal. So will be interesting to see whoelse has already resigned and extended and who gets the development contacts and who doesn't.
But like someone mentioned previously, We can keep them all
That's why other clubs offer overs and we cant compete

 

[84 Baby]

What's the worst that could happen?

Obviously if we win those 23 games with the rookies, BA may take that as authorisation to not give wholesale debuts next season

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

I'm going to assume John West means Jaeman Salmon. He was a Sharks player.

yeh but, in the ad, isn't the rejected fish called a 'dog salmon'?

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

this Kikau bloke looks alright. Can't believe that nobody has suggested that we sign this bloke.