Rumours and Stuff

[Joshuatheeel]

My question to you was how many of them would be cheap? I can't see how any of these guys would be on less than top 17 money:

Alvaro
Brown
Evans
Mannah
Ma'u
Moeroa
Paulo
Takairangi

I reckon the cheapest of them would be on at least $200k. There's probably room for a couple such players in reserve grade, but how many? You don't want too much of your cap on the sidelines when the team is at full strength.

For some fun:

Alvaro - $250k
Brown - $400k
Evans - $300k
Mannah - $400k
Mau’u - $400k
Moeroa - $500k
Paulo - $700k
Taka - $250k

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Obviously more than 60% but if you only spend around the minimum on players 18-30 (averaged at say $100k so say $1.3m) then you have around $7.8m to spend on your top 17. This is over $450k average.

This comes with a massive assumption which I think many people miss.

Paying players 18-30 an average of $100k each seems clear cut on the surface, but the assumption is that there is a sufficient supply of players worth about $100k. If there isn't, then if the max you want to pay is $100k you could end up paying this amount to a bunch of guys worth considerably less than $100k. There is a massive gulf between a player worth $100k and a player worth $50k, even if the $50k player is paid as much as the player worth $100k. To illustrate this point, the development list players can only be paid $60k max. That means they will probably be worth less than this. If they were worth more than $75k they would surely find their way into some club's top 30. Obviously there will be exceptions.

So the point is that you don't want 13 players in your top 30 worth $100k or less. This is getting into the Dane Aukafolau or Ray Stone territory. Sure these kids might have a big pre-season and play well enough in reserve grade (e.g. Reed Mahoney) but when almost half of your top 30 are filled with these guys you can guarantee the majority will disappoint, and worse, you will need to rely on them to play some first grade, some of them a dozen games or more.

And this is why clubs end up with 'too much depth' while the armchair experts piss and moan about how coaches and administrators don't know this obvious stuff. They do know, but they also know the less obvious stuff that the Glenneels of the world can't grasp.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Are you suggesting poor squad management?

Not at all. But just over two years ago we had to dump contracted players and then rebuild the squad in a hurry. Managing the squad doesn't occur in a vacuum. It is something that happens year on year when the ideal player either isn't available or there is no room in the squad (room under the cap or a spot in the top 17) when he is available.

 

[Incorrect]

Reading over on the main LU NRL page that Kane Elgey could be off to ESL next year... I reckon he'd be worth a punt if we're definitely going to jettison Normz. A change of scenery might be just what he needs. Would be cheap. I don't want Austin near our team at all. Sounds like it's more or less a fit accompli though...

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Elgey is a worse defender than James Maloney. He is Sandowesque in his technique and application. Good playmaker but. And a left footer.

 

[Chipmunk]

Reading over on the main LU NRL page that Kane Elgey could be off to ESL next year... I reckon he'd be worth a punt if we're definitely going to jettison Normz. A change of scenery might be just what he needs. Would be cheap. I don't want Austin near our team at all. Sounds like it's more or less a fit accompli though...

I've also wondered what the deal is with Elgey. He seemed to have some decent raps as a youngster and then had his ACL and is now not even considered at a lowly club like the Titans.

He's probably worth a deal for the right price.

 

[El Diablo]

at a lowly club like the Titans.

if the Titans are a lowly club then what do you think Parra are?

 

[hindy111]

Can anyone se us avoiding the spoon?
I honestly can't .

Our biggest issues moving forward

Moving on these lemons

Hoffman
Evans
Jennings

Id say 1.3 million there.

 

[84 Baby]

if the Titans are a lowly club then what do you think Parra are?

The best f**king club in the world

 

[hindy111]

BA has to work out the future positions for Bevan,Gutherson and Taka. And stick with it.

Bevans development has been hampered as has Guthersons. Ridiculous coaching imo.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

BA has to work out the future positions for Bevan,Gutherson and Taka. And stick with it.

Bevans development has been hampered as has Guthersons. Ridiculous coaching imo.

I agree, but I'm sure the coach knows. He's had to chop and change out of necessity.

 

[hindy111]

I agree, but I'm sure the coach knows. He's had to chop and change out of necessity.

Norman to fullback and Guth into halves only to swap back?
Seems odd thing to do

 

[Bazal]

Taka's best position is wherever he likes, as long as he's in black and white...

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Norman to fullback and Guth into halves only to swap back?
Seems odd thing to do

It does. If only we had all the information. That said, the only change was where the two players defended. In attack nothing changed when they 'swapped'.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Taka's best position is wherever he likes, as long as he's in black and white...

Kiwi national team?

 

[Bazal]

Kiwi national team?

Sure, if it means he misses a Parra game, any black and white will do.

I actually think he's got the makings of a decent bench back rower. But the dude needs a kick up the date, he is the dumbest player in our side by miles.

 

[84 Baby]

Sure, if it means he misses a Parra game, any black and white will do.

I actually think he's got the makings of a decent bench back rower. But the dude needs a kick up the date, he is the dumbest player in our side by miles.

Will Smith says hi

 

[Bazal]

Will Smith says hi

Taka is consistently dumber than Smith tbh

 

[Sphagnum]

Anyone who mentions guys like elgey and Austin as being good signings are f**ken geniuss

 

[hineyrulz]

Taka is consistently dumber than Smith tbh

Dumbest footballer at Parra by a mile.