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TheRam

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Mason didn't have a conversation with Hasler last week. He spoke to him when he still was a coach.

Either way, Mason isn't reliable. I doubt he even understood what Hasler was saying (which reading between the lines sounds like he was trying give Mason the hint that he doesn't sign people who play like slugs).

Yeah you, Pou and others here know more about footy then a guy that has played for his State and Country, and has been coached by some of the best minds in the game alive.
 

Gary Gutful

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But can't you see that the evidence you are using to support your argument are things that happened during his storied coaching career??

You're using evidence at odds with the point you're attempting to make, which might just be why everyone is piling on?? [for what it's worth, you do this quite often!]
Game, set, match. OMC.
 

Gary Gutful

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Yeah you, Pou and others here know more about footy then a guy that has played for his State and Country, and has been coached by some of the best minds in the game alive.
Almost as ludicrous as someone suggesting that Mason knows more than Hasler.

You can't argue it both ways champ ;)
 

Gronk

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You guys are all idiots.
Rammy is the savant around here. Des Hasler was a terrible coach.....

He took a 13th placed Manly side to 7 straight finals appearances, (2 titles and they were cheated out of another one)
He then immediately took a 9 win Bulldogs team to the finals 5 straight times, including 2 grand finals.

That's 12 straight years of finals footy, which included 2 premierships, another that SHOULD have been a premiership, and 2 grand finals.

I'd take 5 from 12 grand final appearances any day of the week.


Now it's possible his methods of managing the cap mean he has limited effectiveness as a long term coach, and that clubs might be scared off by that? But to deny he is an excellent thinker about the game is farcical.

That 40 blot GF win over favs Storm was one of the wins of the century.

As for Hasler managing the cap, he wasn't Robinson Crusoe at that club.

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Joshuatheeel

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Yeah you, Pou and others here know more about footy then a guy that has played for his State and Country, and has been coached by some of the best minds in the game alive.

Fair enough, Mason is more experienced then us and as a player has a better insight into Hasler.

So then we should also take Graham’s opinion of Hasler who was actually coached by him (and not just based on a quick chat in a cafe):

“"I regard Des so highly and will be personally indebted to him for bettering me as a man and a footballer.
He took me to my footballing limits and took a lot of those boys to their footballing limits."

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp...es-hasler-the-wrong-call-20170919-gyksi7.html
 

84 Baby

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Fair enough, Mason is more experienced then us and as a player has a better insight into Hasler.

So then we should also take Graham’s opinion of Hasler who was actually coached by him (and not just based on a quick chat in a cafe):

“"I regard Des so highly and will be personally indebted to him for bettering me as a man and a footballer.
He took me to my footballing limits and took a lot of those boys to their footballing limits."

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp...es-hasler-the-wrong-call-20170919-gyksi7.html
Yeah but he's a soap dodger. Can you really trust what they are saying? Even if you can understand what the f**k is actually dribbling out their mouths
 

hindy111

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So often Ram comes on here with a poorly thought about theory about something which he expects everyone to accept unchallenged. It usually gets delivered with a level of arrogance that isn’t commensurate with the quality of the theory as well which doesn’t help his cause. Then when people inevitably start pointing out flaws he gets all bitchy and personal. I think he'd be better conversing with sycophants like Hindy111.

What is a sycophant?
 

hindy111

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Ill do you a deal. I'll stop playing the man when you do.

I already commented on the issue but you didn't address my comment. You know why you didn't? Because you were too busy playing the man!

If you want to have a genuine conversation then try addressing people's comments when they raise them.


Before you agree to any deal Ram make sure you have Gary write up a contract.
 

hindy111

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Ironic coming from a bloke who spends half his time tongueing Rammys coight

We just agree that the clubs need some forwards with a set of balls and that it has problems. We aren't making excuses for the clubs rubbish signings over the past 5 yrs or the fact our coach may of become stale.
We are realists and we have ideas. Type of men who explore. Leaders. Not yes men. We ask questions and search for answers.

I have also stated plenty of times id rather us have another rotten year in 2019 and build with this next gen of juniors. These quick fixes of your Jennings and Watmoughs, Scotts always end in tears. Lets hope Fergo isn't another.

And on the coach sometimes players just get a little comfortable themself. A worse coach may come in and perform better. Players may enjoy a breathe of fresh air around the joint.

Am I allowed to say that? Do I have your authority Bazal or am I being a Bully
 

Gronk

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To all the haters that didn't want the Moz Twins. Now signed by two heavyweights.

 

Gary Gutful

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We just agree that the clubs need some forwards with a set of balls and that it has problems. We aren't making excuses for the clubs rubbish signings over the past 5 yrs or the fact our coach may of become stale.
If you are suggesting that others are making excuses I don't think that is entirely fair. Valid reasons and logic that people don't understand quickly gets called an 'excuse' but it is an inaccurate description imo.

We are realists and we have ideas. Type of men who explore.
Just don't challenge us on it or we quickly go from 'explore' to explode.

Leaders. Not yes men. We ask questions and search for answers.
Not really. You throw together half baked ideas that aren't logical. If you spent more time searching for answers or self-analysing you'd probably post less 'ideas'.

I have also stated plenty of times id rather us have another rotten year in 2019 and build with this next gen of juniors. These quick fixes of your Jennings and Watmoughs, Scotts always end in tears. Lets hope Fergo isn't another.
Time will tell. I'd say the best team is one with balance. Develop some juniors but recruit quality experienced players where needed.

And on the coach sometimes players just get a little comfortable themself. A worse coach may come in and perform better. Players may enjoy a breathe of fresh air around the joint.
What if they don't? Now you've got a shit team and an even worse coach!
 

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