Rumours and Stuff

[Joshuatheeel]

We need a line breaking tackle busting 2nd rower. At worse must start t rex if not sign one.

Which sides do you reckon have a tackle busting 2nd rower?

 

[hindy111]

Which sides do you reckon have a tackle busting 2nd rower?

All top 8.

I hope we do in LANE and Teapi has ability as does T rex if fit.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

All top 8.

I hope we do in LANE and Teapi has ability as does T rex if fit.

So all sides that either have origin or NZ/England experienced players in the halves, while Lane is also playing out side 2 origin experienced players

So what comes first the chicken or the egg..........maybe Gavin Cooper can answer that ......

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Which sides do you reckon have a tackle busting 2nd rower?

Whichever ones win. And then when they lose they suddenly don't have one that week. It's like the tryscoring winger. They don't show up when you lose.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yea but totals? I can only seem to find individual games stats (as opposed to the totals for the year). It would be some effort to add up every P/O for each game for every team and then compare and then do it for previous years

It would.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Do you see Manu or Niaukore capable of a game like Sims or Frizell. Or kikau etc?
Never.

Ma'u was better than all those merkins up until this year. Even in 2015 when we only won nine games. In fact, Ma'u was going pretty well late in the season before he got injured.

 

[hindy111]

Ma'u was better than all those merkins up until this year. Even in 2015 when we only won nine games. In fact, Ma'u was going pretty well late in the season before he got injured.

Mau over Kikau or Frizel or Kafusi or Cordner. Geesh glad your not running our club.
Mau goes ok but not that style. Cooper was never in these guys class.

 

[strider]

What about hard running Pangai Jnr ... AWOL

 

[Avenger]

We are so far away from any of these top 8 sides that it is almost offensive to compare ourselves to them.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Mau over Kikau or Frizel or Kafusi or Cordner. Geesh glad your not running our club.
Mau goes ok but not that style. Cooper was never in these guys class.

I didn't say better than Cordner. He also wasn't better than Tohu Harris at his best. Those two are the best. Most of the damaging ones you've mentioned are just middle forwards with some speed and footwork. They are all poor defenders. They also all play in better teams than Manu Ma'u so they get better opportunities to carry the ball.

The Cowboys won a premiership with Cooper and Lowe on the edges. Ma'u is as good as either of them, IMO. Just gets less support.

 

[hindy111]

I didn't say better than Cordner. He also wasn't better than Tohu Harris at his best. Those two are the best. Most of the damaging ones you've mentioned are just middle forwards with some speed and footwork. They are all poor defenders. They also all play in better teams than Manu Ma'u so they get better opportunities to carry the ball.

The Cowboys won a premiership with Cooper and Lowe on the edges. Ma'u is as good as either of them, IMO. Just gets less support.

Yes but had morgan,thurston,coote.tamou,toumalolo,Scott. Give me those guys at their best and id settle of manu and tepai in 2nd row.
Otherwise I think an upgrade be good

 

[Joshuatheeel]

We are so far away from any of these top 8 sides that it is almost offensive to compare ourselves to them.

Yes we had a shit year but only the Roosters and the second half against Souths did the the top 8 sides flogged us.

We were pretty competitive against them. We actually lost 5 times (I think)to top 8 sides where we scored the same amount of tries. Plus the poor form of our halves cost us any chance in the broncos / storm games.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yes but had morgan,thurston,coote.tamou,toumalolo,Scott. Give me those guys at their best and id settle of manu and tepai in 2nd row.
Otherwise I think an upgrade be good

An upgrade would always be good. I'm sure whoever wins the comp this year will still be hoping to improve the squad for next year.

But when you improve your team you need to take existing contracts into account. If you can't get rid of a player on a top 17 contract without paying too much freight then you need to hang onto him and play him in the top 17 until he's gone. Make it work Then use your cap space to replace guys you actually can get rid of, like the ones off contract.

 

[Avenger]

Yes we had a shit year but only the Roosters and the second half against Souths did the the top 8 sides flogged us.

We were pretty competitive against them. We actually lost 5 times (I think)to top 8 sides where we scored the same amount of tries. Plus the poor form of our halves cost us any chance in the broncos / storm games.

We won only 6 games. The only reason Arthur and most of our underperforming players are still here is because we refuse to pay out their contracts or nobody will take them on.

 

[hineyrulz]

Yes we had a shit year but only the Roosters and the second half against Souths did the the top 8 sides flogged us.

We were pretty competitive against them. We actually lost 5 times (I think)to top 8 sides where we scored the same amount of tries. Plus the poor form of our halves cost us any chance in the broncos / storm games.

Yeah on the whole it was quite a successful year.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Yeah on the whole it was quite a successful year.

Where did I say that?

I actually, said it was a shit year!!

Maybe talk some footy, must get pretty boring just saying we are shit, sack the coach, we are shit, sack the coach, we are shit, sack the coach, we are shit, sack the coach.......

 

[Joshuatheeel]

We won only 6 games. The only reason Arthur and most of our underperforming players are still here is because we refuse to pay out their contracts or nobody will take them on.

That wasn’t the point of discussion! Just pointing out we were fairly competitive against the top 8 sides (and I am not saying we had a good year, it was shit terrible!!).

 

[Avenger]

How about sack the coach we may not be as shit?

 

[Joshuatheeel]

How about sack the coach we may not be as shit?

It you say that enough it may just happen!!

But I doubt it !!

 

[Poupou Escobar]

How about sack the coach we may not be as shit?

We should've sacked him after 2017.