Rumours and Stuff

[84 Baby]

Who needs time when we've got unsubstantiated opinions

 

[84 Baby]

Roosters culture has been worse than ours but they still manage to play finals each year and every now and then jag a premiership. Its all to do with players and the organisation behind them.

Na I reckon it's all to do with their culture. We clearly need to raise/lower to the Roosters cultured standards of culture. Signing Ferguson and Junior is a step in the right direction

 

[84 Baby]

So I gather then that you think poor culture doesn’t have much effect on team performance/results. I disagree.

Here's some highly cultured individuals to have won premierships:
The Burgii/Dylan Walker/Kirisome Auvaa
Mythchell Piss/SKD
Mark Gasnier
Andrew Johns
Brad Fittler

And so on and so on.

Off field "culture" in terms of drug partaking, home movies, consorting & violent behaviour clearly don't have universal correlation to on-field results. I'm sure individually, in individual games, more likely right down to individual moments, it might.

You really only need to go back to 2001 grand final. We had a great off-field culture, our biggest/only culprit at the time was Taylor, and by culprit, I mean "culprit".
Knights had Johns & O'Davis. Enough said really.

It really comes down to on-field culture. In fact I reckon merkinism is a driving factor behind a lot of professional sports people

 

[chiefy1]

Here's some highly cultured individuals to have won premierships:
The Burgii/Dylan Walker/Kirisome Auvaa
Mythchell Piss/SKD
Mark Gasnier
Andrew Johns
Brad Fittler

And so on and so on.

Off field "culture" in terms of drug partaking, home movies, consorting & violent behaviour clearly don't have universal correlation to on-field results. I'm sure individually, in individual games, more likely right down to individual moments, it might.

You really only need to go back to 2001 grand final. We had a great off-field culture, our biggest/only culprit at the time was Taylor, and by culprit, I mean "culprit".
Knights had Johns & O'Davis. Enough said really.

It really comes down to on-field culture. In fact I reckon merkinism is a driving factor behind a lot of professional sports people

I'm sure the current club sponsors and those looking to uptake a sponsorship deal with our club would not like to have their brand damaged by fkwitts.

This is the number one reason culture is so important. The relationships between sponsors and clubs is a very delicate one, so wake the fk up and stop looking at on field results.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Here's some highly cultured individuals to have won premierships:
The Burgii/Dylan Walker/Kirisome Auvaa
Mythchell Piss/SKD
Mark Gasnier
Andrew Johns
Brad Fittler

And so on and so on.

Off field "culture" in terms of drug partaking, home movies, consorting & violent behaviour clearly don't have universal correlation to on-field results. I'm sure individually, in individual games, more likely right down to individual moments, it might.

You really only need to go back to 2001 grand final. We had a great off-field culture, our biggest/only culprit at the time was Taylor, and by culprit, I mean "culprit".
Knights had Johns & O'Davis. Enough said really.

It really comes down to on-field culture. In fact I reckon merkinism is a driving factor behind a lot of professional sports people

Exactly. If you obsess about ‘culture’ and not bringing dickheads to your club then you arguably only have about 5 players that could actually choose from.

 

[Eelogical]

Exactly. If you obsess about ‘culture’ and not bringing dickheads to your club then you arguably only have about 5 players that could actually choose from.

We could bring more dickheads through our juniors instead of importing them.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Strange though that when he finally saw that average to small forwards don't and can't win the ruck consistently, over a full season, yes even in 2017

Winning the ruck wasn't such a big deal in 2016 or 2017 compared to this year. All the extra penalties this year rewarded the bigger packs, though it still didn't help the Cowboys.

Semi, a favourable draw

There's no such thing as a favourable draw unless you're better than most teams.

and less injuries saved our bacon,

Yeah what a massive stroke of luck to have less injuries. It's like having a favourable draw FFS!
Here's the ladder and the number of players to appear in 20+ games this year:

15 Roosters
11 Storm
13 Souths
10 Sharks
13 Broncos
10 Panthers
15 Dragons
13 Warriors
9 Tigers
11 Raiders
11 Knights
10 Dogs
10 Cowboys
10 Titans
8 Manly
6 Eels

So were we lucky last year (we had ten blokes play 20+ games) or unlucky this year?

he then scores 2 big forwards and the best metre eater winger in the comp all in a period of about 3-4 months.

Who are the two big forwards? Lane is no bigger than Evans, and Vave isn't much smaller than Paulo.

Ferguson addresses our biggest weakness, but Hayne could also have done a great job on the wing this year if he hadn't missed so many games.

Coincidence? I think not. So don't crap on that we can't get quality big powerful players to our club. Where there's a will there's a way and yes LEGALLY. But he still doesn't get it totally if you ask me, otherwise he would be looking to offload more of our average players and fighting tooth and nail to get more quality size into the team. But who really know, he might be doing just that. Time will tell.

If our halves had played as well as last year (behind the same pack) we would've won the possession count a lot more. Our forwards would have been big enough.

 

[Gronk]

The twitterverse reckons that Mennings, French, Taka, Norman and Moses have all been told they can leave.

All plausible, however I doubt that we would let both our halves go. One and not the other ?

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Yes not reliable, but the lurker reckons we have told Taka, Jennings, Moses, French, Norman they are all free to leave

 

[Gronk]

Yes not reliable, but the lurker reckons we have told Taka, Jennings, Moses, French, Norman they are all free to leave

I think Mennings and Taka would both go if they can get a 2/3 year deal in ESL.

 

[strider]

I'm sure the current club sponsors and those looking to uptake a sponsorship deal with our club would not like to have their brand damaged by fkwitts.

This is the number one reason culture is so important. The relationships between sponsors and clubs is a very delicate one, so wake the fk up and stop looking at on field results.

Sponsors only give so many shits about such things

I would say if a club is still an onfield success and giving their sponsor exposure via that then sponsors will look past some small dicretions

Most sponsors only bail when they are simply not interested in stumping up cash any more regardless of discretions .... the discretions are then just excuses to get out

 

[Gazzamatta]

Are we really sure we need to move players of this quality on? Granted their form wasnt great this year but are we really getting to the root cause? These players were good enough to sign and re sign.
Our plan appears to be to dump players who have performed admirably in the past but maintain a coach who has had a similar journey. 8 to 13 plus players losing form all at once but its all their fault?
To be honest I dont care which direction we head but for Christs sake lets make sure we are doing it for the right reasons and not out of loyalty to anyone. Ffs get professional Parramatta. And ffs get it right.

 

[I bleed blue & gold]

I'd be happy if Taka left.

 

[Twizzle]

Yes not reliable, but the lurker reckons we have told Taka, Jennings, Moses, French, Norman they are all free to leave

Facebook are saying 7 players, no names but if you add King and Vave it adds up

 

[Gazzamatta]

And all this BS about not being able to compete financially. How is this an excuse? If we arent seeking 3rd party deals why arent we? Because we cheated in the past? What a load of hog sh*t. Or is it because we have the wrong people involved to support legal TPAs?
Sharks, Penrith, Brisbane, Melbourne etc have no issues. Is it that hard to do things professionally and legally. Who the fu*k is out there selling The Parramatta Eels. Location, history, new stadium etc should have us turning people away who want to get involved. Somebody or lots of somebodys arent doing their job.
Stop with the fuc*en excuses.
Rant over.

 

[Twizzle]

Seeking them does not mean you will be successful in getting TPAs.

You cant just demand them.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

And all this BS about not being able to compete financially. How is this an excuse? If we arent seeking 3rd party deals why arent we? Because we cheated in the past? What a load of hog sh*t. Or is it because we have the wrong people involved to support legal TPAs?
Sharks, Penrith, Brisbane, Melbourne etc have no issues. Is it that hard to do things professionally and legally. Who the fu*k is out there selling The Parramatta Eels. Location, history, new stadium etc should have us turning people away who want to get involved. Somebody or lots of somebodys arent doing their job.
Stop with the fuc*en excuses.
Rant over.

You’re talking about sponsorships, not TPAs.

 

[Gazzamatta]

You’re talking about sponsorships, not TPAs.

I know what im referring too Poo. Sponsorships for club and players done within the NRL rules. If we cant secure sufficient get people who can.
No excuses.

 

[84 Baby]

I'm sure the current club sponsors and those looking to uptake a sponsorship deal with our club would not like to have their brand damaged by fkwitts.

This is the number one reason culture is so important. The relationships between sponsors and clubs is a very delicate one, so wake the fk up and stop looking at on field results.

Agree there'd definitely be link between dickheads and lack of sponsors, but, it'd take a bit more research, but I reckon there's no direct correlation to sponsorship and on-field success. And I thought on-field performance was the original issue?

It's a bit of a chicken and egg scenario. Sponsorship is probably more of an indicator of success than a driver, however it probably would provide somewhat to lengthen that success, although that could possibly mean bringing in some merkins to actually capitalise on that, leading inevitably to merkins being merkins.

All our players had individual sponsors announced at home games. What was Kenny Edwards's's's?

And at the end of the day, I reckon our lack of sponsors is more due to other reasons then a couple of dickheads being dickheads

 

[hindy111]

the early hugger catches the nut

On here it seems more like the nut catches the hugger