Rumours and Stuff

[Gary Gutful]

Such a tease

 

[El Diablo]

What a great day. I'm back. What a great day.
I think I will call it a night.

enjoying your brand new colostomy bag?

 

[Bolgeel]

I think a good culture within a sporting organisation is a playing roster that appreciates the opportunity they have been given and respect their club, their fellow players and their coaching staff.

I think a good culture means that no
one individual is bigger than the club and egos are left at the door. There is no need to be “the man” because the team’s success is their success.

I think a good culture demands success consistently and individuals are held to account if performances are subpar.

I think a good culture means that adequate support (financial and Human Resources) is given to the club so that it is given every opportunity for success.

I think a good culture requires the playing group to trust that the coaching staff can improve them as individual players and prepare them collectively to be a successful team.

Similarly, I think a good culture requires the coaching staff to trust that the players they have recruited and selected to be professional and perform consistently to their ability.

With this in mind, I ask you again...

1. Do you think that culture has little to no effect on a sporting organisation’s success, and

2. Do you think the eels have a positive culture?

No and no

 

[hindy111]

The early hindy111 catches the worm

 

[Gary Gutful]

The early hindy111 catches the worm

*'worm'

 

[hineyrulz]

Up until round two this year I thought we had a good culture. A few weeks after that the Cowboys might've been wondering about their own culture too.

But maybe both clubs were just unlucky this year. It happened to the Roosters in 2016 as well. They won six games that year after winning 18 the year before. If it can happen to clubs like those it can happen to us. 2018 could just be a dip in the road.

Yeah just a bit of bad luck this year, watch us go next year it will be very exciting.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Yeah just a bit of bad luck this year, watch us go next year it will be very exciting.

‘Could’, not ‘is’ you illegitimate son of an illegitimate father!!!

 

[strider]

The early hindy111 catches the worm

Euphemism for sure

 

[El Diablo]

The early hindy111 catches the worm

the early hugger catches the nut

 

[hineyrulz]

‘Could’, not ‘is’ you illegitimate son of an illegitimate father!!!

Yeah.

 

[Twizzle]

culture
ˈkʌltʃə/
noun
noun: culture; plural noun: cultures

1. 1.
   the arts and other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively.
   "20th century popular culture"
   synonyms: the arts, the humanities; More
   
   
   • a refined understanding or appreciation of culture.
     "men of culture"
     synonyms: intellectual/artistic awareness, education, cultivation, enlightenment, discernment, discrimination, good taste, taste, refinement, polish; More
     
2. 2.
   the ideas, customs, and social behaviour of a particular people or society.
   "Afro-Caribbean culture"
   synonyms: civilization, society, way of life, lifestyle; More
   
   • the attitudes and behaviour characteristic of a particular social group.
     "the emerging drug culture"
3. 3.
   BIOLOGY
   the cultivation of bacteria, tissue cells, etc. in an artificial medium containing nutrients.
   "the cells proliferate readily in culture"
   • a preparation of cells obtained by culture.
     "the bacterium was isolated in two blood cultures"
4. 4.
   the cultivation of plants.
   "this variety of lettuce is popular for its ease of culture"
   synonyms: cultivation, growing, farming; More
   

 

[Glenneel]

This pack won 29 games the previous two years, and they did it through superior mobility. That’s the benefit of a smaller pack.

And what do you base this superior mobility on? NRL has us as the slowest team to play the ball.

 

[Glenneel]

I think had we won those 8 games you mentioned it would have glossed over the poor culture and lack of accountability I believe is endemic throughout our club, just as it did last year.

Couple of questions...

1. Do you think culture plays little or no part in the success of sporting organisations (obviously not being the only factor)?

2. Do you think our culture is a positive one at present?

Roosters culture has been worse than ours but they still manage to play finals each year and every now and then jag a premiership. Its all to do with players and the organisation behind them.

 

[Gronk]

Roosters culture has been worse than ours but they still manage to play finals each year and every now and then jag a premiership. Its all to do with players and the organisation behind them.

 

[oldmancraigy]

You didn’t answer either of the two questions. You just asked another question based on a ‘what if?’

Do you think culture plays a part in being successful?

And do you think the eels at present have a positive culture?

Oh, sorry. Are you the only one allowed to posit a scenario and ask questions based on it?

As far as culture and results being tied together, to make your case you are relying a lot on 'what ifs' aren't you?

Arthur takes over a 5 win club.
2014 12 wins
2015 9 wins (after losing our best player late in the off-season)
2016 13 wins (but total drama after years of fraud exposed)
2017 16 wins and top 4 finish.

What would you say about the culture of the club those results indicated? That we did well in spite of a crap culture? (in which case why bother making the culture argument) Or that indications are of a culture change? Or that it indicates a positive culture of regrowth in the club?

You could argue all those things. It seems a bit simplistic for you to be arguing a 'crap culture long term' after 1 bad season. You come across very chicken-little-esque.

 

[Happy MEel]

Roosters culture has been worse than ours but they still manage to play finals each year and every now and then jag a premiership. Its all to do with players and the organisation behind them.

Culture isn’t just about off-field player behaviour, although I’d argue we’re comparable in that regard.

As I’ve mentioned, we don’t have the endless resources and TPAs of a club like the Roosters so we need every competitive advantage we can get when tying to entice players to the club to improve the roster.

The organisation’s culture has been putrid for years with the constant backstabbing and self interests of the various factions doing everything they can to destabilise those in charge.

 

[Noise]

Oh, sorry. Are you the only one allowed to posit a scenario and ask questions based on it?

As far as culture and results being tied together, to make your case you are relying a lot on 'what ifs' aren't you?

Arthur takes over a 5 win club.
2014 12 wins
2015 9 wins (after losing our best player late in the off-season)
2016 13 wins (but total drama after years of fraud exposed)
2017 16 wins and top 4 finish.

What would you say about the culture of the club those results indicated? That we did well in spite of a crap culture? (in which case why bother making the culture argument) Or that indications are of a culture change? Or that it indicates a positive culture of regrowth in the club?

You could argue all those things. It seems a bit simplistic for you to be arguing a 'crap culture long term' after 1 bad season. You come across very chicken-little-esque.

So I gather then that you think poor culture doesn’t have much effect on team performance/results. I disagree.

 

[Happy MEel]

Oh, sorry. Are you the only one allowed to posit a scenario and ask questions based on it?

As far as culture and results being tied together, to make your case you are relying a lot on 'what ifs' aren't you?

Arthur takes over a 5 win club.
2014 12 wins
2015 9 wins (after losing our best player late in the off-season)
2016 13 wins (but total drama after years of fraud exposed)
2017 16 wins and top 4 finish.

What would you say about the culture of the club those results indicated? That we did well in spite of a crap culture? (in which case why bother making the culture argument) Or that indications are of a culture change? Or that it indicates a positive culture of regrowth in the club?

You could argue all those things. It seems a bit simplistic for you to be arguing a 'crap culture long term' after 1 bad season. You come across very chicken-little-esque.

I think you could argue that culture has more of a long term impact on performance and results. Pou could be right and this year was an outlier, or it could be that 2017 and to a lesser extent 2016 were the outliers.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

And what do you base this superior mobility on? NRL has us as the slowest team to play the ball.

Ruck speed has little to do with mobility. If anything there is an inverse correlation. Bigger players are usually able to play the ball quicker, and bigger players also tend to be less mobile.

 

[TheRam]

Whilst BA was publicly praising our forward pack, what were his options? To publicly state that "Our forwards are shit and not likely to get us anywhere but what the hell...".
Just because the public do not see or know who the club is targeting, talking to, or making unsuccessful offers to, doesn't mean we weren't out there doing it.

Strange though that when he finally saw that average to small forwards don't and can't win the ruck consistently, over a full season, yes even in 2017, Semi, a favourable draw and less injuries saved our bacon, he then scores 2 big forwards and the best metre eater winger in the comp all in a period of about 3-4 months.

Coincidence? I think not. So don't crap on that we can't get quality big powerful players to our club. Where there's a will there's a way and yes LEGALLY. But he still doesn't get it totally if you ask me, otherwise he would be looking to offload more of our average players and fighting tooth and nail to get more quality size into the team. But who really know, he might be doing just that. Time will tell.