Rumours and Stuff

[Gary Gutful]

Why would I rest on my yannys?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

In fairness to the Sharks, they did have to play a season without their coach. It's probably unlikely they would've made the bottom 4 if they had their coach.

Well we had to play a season without any points. We wouldn't have finished bottom four that year either. It sucks getting caught cheating. I'm sure the Sharks and Eels hope they don't get caught again.

The Roosters have been Minor Premiers 4 of the last 6 years and a Top 4 finish one other. I wouldn't be too fussed if we won 2 comps and 4 Minor Premierships in 6 years and then suddenly had an "off" season where we ran second last, instead of 3 wooden spoons in 7 years.

Which means you also can't objectively see that winning only six games can happen even to a supposedly high quality coach, with a top four quality squad. If it can happen to them without being the coach's fault why not us?

You also ignore the fact that two of our wooden spoons were picked up by coaches who have never run last at any other club. One of them is even a premiership winner. It's obvious that you are far overstating the influence of the coach. You have a romanticised notion of how much a coach can actually achieve, and you ignore the importance of other resources to winning NRL games.

 

[Avenger]

Oh Pou

Similarly how you over romanticise the fact that shit players will come good and deserve multiple chances.

You did it with Sandow, Joseph Paulo, Luke Kelly and Matt Keating. You do it with all ordinary players. You also do it with coaches like Kearney and Stuart. If it was up to you they would still be coaching us.

You are an apologist proscrastinator that gets off arguing about ridiculous arguments on a footy forum. Half the time I reckon you don’t even believe the shit you write. You just do the opposite view for the sake of it.

You are the only person on the Internet that trolls their own forum.

You are truly unique.

 

[hindy111]

Oh Pou

Similarly how you over romanticise the fact that shit players will come good and deserve multiple chances.

You did it with Sandow, Joseph Paulo, Luke Kelly and Matt Keating. You do it with all ordinary players. You also do it with coaches like Kearney and Stuart. If it was up to you they would still be coaching us.

You are an apologist proscrastinator that gets off arguing about ridiculous arguments on a footy forum. Half the time I reckon you don’t even believe the shit you write. You just do the opposite view for the sake of it.

You are the only person on the Internet that trolls their own forum.

You are truly unique.

Pou is trying to put a formula into rugby league. Thats fine. It is how storm coach and build a team imo. Its all about stats and jobs.
But what he is missing is the pure desire passion and drive of an individual.
What seperates guys like Thurston,Slater,Cam from guys like MJ and Hayne.

You watch Turbo Tom by end of career how good this kid will be. Comes with great family and morals along with attitude.
For ssme reason why Cleary is going better then Moses. The latter clearly more talented but who will have better careers by end?

In NFL they sign Qbs not only on skill but IQ and personalities.

 

[Avenger]

Pou is trying to put a formula into rugby league. Thats fine. It is how storm coach and build a team imo. Its all about stats and jobs.
But what he is missing is the pure desire passion and drive of an individual.
What seperates guys like Thurston,Slater,Cam from guys like MJ and Hayne.

You watch Turbo Tom by end of career how good this kid will be. Comes with great family and morals along with attitude.
For ssme reason why Cleary is going better then Moses. The latter clearly more talented but who will have better careers by end?

In NFL they sign Qbs not only on skill but IQ and personalities.

One of your best posts ever. Well done.

 

[chiefy1]

This is my guess on the identity of Pou Pou Escobar

When a coach wins a wooden spoon in his 5th season of a build - it means he has nfi

When Stuart finished last, it wasn’t the team he had time to build right, meaning pau has absolutely nf idea

 

[hindy111]

This is my guess on the identity of Pou Pou Escobar

When a coach wins a wooden spoon in his 5th season of a build - it means he has nfi

When Stuart finished last, it wasn’t the team he had time to build right, pau has absolutely nf idea

He has heaps of ideas. They are just different to mine or yours. If he was a coach he would have a different style then yourself and me. Who would be more successful is a guess.
Lets be honest. Pou would have perhaps more success then both of us. I dont mind his theory.It certainly isnt terrible.

 

[emjaycee]

This is my guess on the identity of Pou Pou Escobar

When a coach wins a wooden spoon in his 5th season of a build - it means he has nfi

When Stuart finished last, it wasn’t the team he had time to build right, meaning pau has absolutely nf idea

Just checking how the comments you made have anything to do with the identity of Pau Pau?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Oh Pou

Similarly how you over romanticise the fact that shit players will come good and deserve multiple chances.

I just appreciate the value of backups.

You did it with Sandow, Joseph Paulo, Luke Kelly and Matt Keating.

Keating played in a grand final, Kelly was signed by Bellamy and Paulo by Flanagan. Fair point about Sandow.

You do it with all ordinary players.

There's a place for ordinary players in the game.

You also do it with coaches like Kearney and Stuart. If it was up to you they would still be coaching us.

There is also a place for ordinary coaches. Or why else would they still be coaching in the NRL?

You are an apologist proscrastinator that gets off arguing about ridiculous arguments on a footy forum. Half the time I reckon you don’t even believe the shit you write. You just do the opposite view for the sake of it.

I absolutely believe it. I just also believe the opposing facts. The world is complicated, and so is rugby league.

You are the only person on the Internet that trolls their own forum.

You are truly unique.

I'm sure I'm not the only one offended by oversimplification. It's why we get ants.

 

[strider]

I don't get the calling pou, "pau", thing ... am i missing something?

I can only guess those that do it are
a) dyslexic
b) dumb
c) got a really bad sense of humour
d) really bad trolls
e) all of the above

 

[Poupou Escobar]

This is my guess on the identity of Pou Pou Escobar

When a coach wins a wooden spoon in his 5th season of a build - it means he has nfi

When Stuart finished last, it wasn’t the team he had time to build right, meaning pau has absolutely nf idea

Robinson won six games in his fourth year, just like Arthur won six games in his fifth year. Had Robinson not had time to build his team by the fourth year? Does he even build his own squad, or is it built for him?

And we all know Arthur had to start rebuilding in 2016. Without TPAs. How would any of the top coaches go without TPAs boosting their squads?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I don't get the calling pou, "pau", thing ... am i missing something?

I can only guess those that do it are
a) dyslexic
b) dumb
c) got a really bad sense of humour
d) really bad trolls
e) all of the above

It's because I coached the semi-professional soccer club to promotion to the French third division a couple of years ago.

http://www.paufc.fr/web/

 

[Chipmunk]

Well we had to play a season without any points. We wouldn't have finished bottom four that year either. It sucks getting caught cheating. I'm sure the Sharks and Eels hope they don't get caught again.

Which means you also can't objectively see that winning only six games can happen even to a supposedly high quality coach, with a top four quality squad. If it can happen to them without being the coach's fault why not us?

You also ignore the fact that two of our wooden spoons were picked up by coaches who have never run last at any other club. One of them is even a premiership winner. It's obvious that you are far overstating the influence of the coach. You have a romanticised notion of how much a coach can actually achieve, and you ignore the importance of other resources to winning NRL games.

I'd suggest not having a coach for 12 months has a fair influence over the performance of a team.

I don't believe I ever blamed the coach for the 2018 performance, but the coach was in charge of recruitment so he has to take some blame, as he failed to recruit the players in the positions we needed.

 

[strider]

It's because I coached the semi-professional soccer club to promotion to the French third division a couple of years ago.

http://www.paufc.fr/web/

Ohhh ... i knew there had to be a logical explanation

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I'd suggest not having a coach for 12 months has a fair influence over the performance of a team.

I don't believe I ever blamed the coach for the 2018 performance, but the coach was in charge of recruitment so he has to take some blame, as he failed to recruit the players in the positions we needed.

To recruit the players you need they need to be available at the right price. That is out of a coach's hands.

 

[Chipmunk]

To recruit the players you need they need to be available at the right price. That is out of a coach's hands.

A number of forwards that would've been handy in our team changed clubs last season, they were obviously available.

 

[chiefy1]

Robinson won six games in his fourth year, just like Arthur won six games in his fifth year. Had Robinson not had time to build his team by the fourth year? Does he even build his own squad, or is it built for him?

And we all know Arthur had to start rebuilding in 2016. Without TPAs. How would any of the top coaches go without TPAs boosting their squads?

Id like the Dragons pack. How did they build that forward pack with limited tpa's. They did ok in the finals with a stack of injuries

 

[Poupou Escobar]

A number of forwards that would've been handy in our team changed clubs last season, they were obviously available.

But not at the right price.

Why do you think we didn't sign any high-demand players between the salary cap fiasco and now? If you reckon we paid overs for Kane Evans I'd hate to think how much we've paid for Junior Paulo (now we finally have room for him. Or how much we would've had to pay for an even better forward.

Any signing could be a poor signing if you're paying far too much. And overs for a $700k value player would be a lot more than overs for a $250k value player.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Id like the Dragons pack. How did they build that forward pack with limited tpa's. They did ok in the finals with a stack of injuries

That's because they played the Broncos at the end of the year when their kids were all burnt out. We did the same to the Broncos last year. We've also smashed that Dragons pack in three of our past four meetings.

They had a mostly good year with injuries and so when injury finally struck they had enough points to limp into the finals.

 

[Stagger eel]

Id like the Dragons pack. How did they build that forward pack with limited tpa's. They did ok in the finals with a stack of injuries

They had absolutely no injuries until the later part of the year when they were already entrenched in the 8... I wish we had their injury toll