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Poupou Escobar

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I haven't missed the point at all. You're just contradicting yourself. Or you're using a definition of 'likely' that is all your own. Saying that it's likely Hindmarsh was a good leader and then saying you don't think he was a good leader doesn't make sense. If you had said it's likely he was a good leader but you had some doubts that'd make sense. But he must have been a great leader to win as many games as Watmough despite playing for one of the worst clubs in the NRL.
No, it means I understand uncertainty.

Of course my opinion of what is likely is different to yours, which is why we disagree here. You’re not going to convince me Watmough was a poor leader any more than I’m going to convince you otherwise. Just know that I’m more convinced that Watmough was a good leader than I am that Hindmarsh wasn’t. Experience and reputation go a long way, and I’m sure Hindy offered something on the leadership side, even if it was less than hoped for from such an experienced campaigner.

Watmough wasn’t brought to the club for his playing ability (which was little better than solid throughout his career), he was brought for his experience (beyond dispute) and thus his leadership. The coach knew him personally and therefore knew his character. I’m certain his ‘career ending injury’ was a fabrication to help us out of the shit. It may even have been plan B all along.
 

Happy MEel

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In all honesty, he was one of the world's best captain/leaders. Shackelton and Flinders were others. In NRL terms there are few captain/leaders.
This merkin was no leader!!!

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Eelogical

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No, it means I understand uncertainty.

Of course my opinion of what is likely is different to yours, which is why we disagree here. You’re not going to convince me Watmough was a poor leader any more than I’m going to convince you otherwise. Just know that I’m more convinced that Watmough was a good leader than I am that Hindmarsh wasn’t. Experience and reputation go a long way, and I’m sure Hindy offered something on the leadership side, even if it was less than hoped for from such an experienced campaigner.

Watmough wasn’t brought to the club for his playing ability (which was little better than solid throughout his career), he was brought for his experience (beyond dispute) and thus his leadership. The coach knew him personally and therefore knew his character. I’m certain his ‘career ending injury’ was a fabrication to help us out of the shit. It may even have been plan B all along.
As entertaining as it is, you guys need to get a room. I'm sure one of you will need a strap on.
 
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No, it means I understand uncertainty.

Of course my opinion of what is likely is different to yours, which is why we disagree here. You’re not going to convince me Watmough was a poor leader any more than I’m going to convince you otherwise. Just know that I’m more convinced that Watmough was a good leader than I am that Hindmarsh wasn’t. Experience and reputation go a long way, and I’m sure Hindy offered something on the leadership side, even if it was less than hoped for from such an experienced campaigner.

Watmough wasn’t brought to the club for his playing ability (which was little better than solid throughout his career), he was brought for his experience (beyond dispute) and thus his leadership. The coach knew him personally and therefore knew his character. I’m certain his ‘career ending injury’ was a fabrication to help us out of the shit. It may even have been plan B all along.
I'm not certain about either Hindmarsh's or Watmough's leadership. I reckon the main reason we got him was to be the tough experienced nut on the field, and in that regard he delivered about as well as he could. But I also think that Arthur would have expected he'd have embraced the club more.
I never believed that Beau Scott career ending injury either.
 

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The popcorn variety of maize was domesticated by Pre-Columbian indigenous peoples by 5000 B.C.E. It is a small and harder form of flint corn, most commonly found in white or yellow kernels. The stalks produce several ears at a time, though they are smaller and yield less corn than other maize varieties. The “pop” is not limited exclusively to this type of maize, but the flake of other types is smaller by comparison. Popcorn likely arrived in the American Southwest over 2500 years ago, but was not found growing east of the Mississippi until the early 1800s due to botanical and environmental factors. Today the Midwest is famous for its “Corn Belt,” but prior to the introduction of the steel plow during the 19th century, soil conditions in that region were not suitable for growing corn.

Evidence of popcorn’s first “pop” did not appear until the 1820s, when it was sold throughout the eastern United States under the names Pearl or Nonpareil. Its popularity quickly began to spread throughout the South and by the 1840s popcorn had started to gain a foothold in America. Prestigious literary magazines like New York’s Knickerbocker and the Yale Literary Magazine began referencing popcorn. By 1848, the word “popcorn” was included in John Russell Bartlett’s Dictionary of Americanisms. Bartlett claimed that the name was derived from “the noise it makes on bursting open.”
One of the earliest recipes for popping corn came from Daniel Browne during the 1840s. His method required one to “Take a grill, a half pint, or more of Valparaiso or Pop Corn, and put in a frying-pan, slightly buttered, or rubbed with lard. Hold the pan over a fire so as constantly to stir or shake the corn within, and in a few minutes each kernel will pop, or turn inside out.” He adds that salt or sugar can be added while the popcorn is still hot. The problem with this method was that butter tended to burn before reaching a high enough temperature and lard produced popcorn that was soaked with grease. It wasn’t until the second half of the nineteenth century that an efficient method for popping corn was developed. These newly invented “poppers” were made from boxes of tight wire gauze attached to a long handle; they were meant to be held over an open flame. Poppers offered several benefits, including the ability to contain the popped kernels while also keeping hands away from an exposed flame. Over the years, many improvements were made to the original popper prototype, which made the snack even more accessible to the masses.
As popcorn grew in popularity, it began to appear in all sorts of variations. Louis Ruckheim came up with the first version of Cracker Jack, made from popcorn, peanuts and molasses, during the late 1890s. There are several different stories surrounding how the snack first got its name, but it undoubtedly derived from a popular slang term during the era, meaning “excellent” or “first rate.”

Popcorn’s mass appeal was brought to new heights thanks to movie theaters. Surprisingly, theater owners were not on board with popcorn sales in the beginning. They thought it might create an unnecessary nuisance in addition to requiring expensive changes, like installing outside vents to rid the building of smoky popcorn odors. Hawkers, seeing the potential in popcorn sales, took matters into their own hands and began selling popcorn and Cracker Jack while walking up and down the theater aisles. The Depression eventually changed the minds of theater owners, and they began to view it as a small luxury that patrons could afford. Unlike most treats, popcorn sales actually rose during the Depression. Instead of installing indoor concession areas, theaters charged outside vendors a dollar a day to sell popcorn from outdoor stands. In 1938 Glen W. Dickson, the owner of several theaters throughout the Midwest, began installing popcorn machines in the lobbies of his theaters. The construction changes were costly, but he recovered his investment quickly and his profits skyrocketed. The trend spread quickly. Can you imagine walking into a movie theater today without the scent of popcorn welcoming you inside? I sure can’t.

Recently the GMO debate has gained steam here in the U.S., particularly when it comes to corn. The majority of corn grown in the United States is genetically modified. According to Jeffrey Smith, a GMO expert, the popcorn variety of corn has not yet been genetically modified. This means there is no genetically modified popcorn currently available on the market. Interesting that after all of these years, we’re still enjoying popcorn grown from the same seeds our ancestors used.

The popcorn variety of maize was domesticated by Pre-Columbian indigenous peoples by 5000 B.C.E. It is a small and harder form of flint corn, most commonly found in white or yellow kernels. The stalks produce several ears at a time, though they are smaller and yield less corn than other maize varieties. The “pop” is not limited exclusively to this type of maize, but the flake of other types is smaller by comparison. Popcorn likely arrived in the American Southwest over 2500 years ago, but was not found growing east of the Mississippi until the early 1800s due to botanical and environmental factors. Today the Midwest is famous for its “Corn Belt,” but prior to the introduction of the steel plow during the 19th century, soil conditions in that region were not suitable for growing corn.

Evidence of popcorn’s first “pop” did not appear until the 1820s, when it was sold throughout the eastern United States under the names Pearl or Nonpareil. Its popularity quickly began to spread throughout the South and by the 1840s popcorn had started to gain a foothold in America. Prestigious literary magazines like New York’s Knickerbocker and the Yale Literary Magazine began referencing popcorn. By 1848, the word “popcorn” was included in John Russell Bartlett’s Dictionary of Americanisms. Bartlett claimed that the name was derived from “the noise it makes on bursting open.”
One of the earliest recipes for popping corn came from Daniel Browne during the 1840s. His method required one to “Take a grill, a half pint, or more of Valparaiso or Pop Corn, and put in a frying-pan, slightly buttered, or rubbed with lard. Hold the pan over a fire so as constantly to stir or shake the corn within, and in a few minutes each kernel will pop, or turn inside out.” He adds that salt or sugar can be added while the popcorn is still hot. The problem with this method was that butter tended to burn before reaching a high enough temperature and lard produced popcorn that was soaked with grease. It wasn’t until the second half of the nineteenth century that an efficient method for popping corn was developed. These newly invented “poppers” were made from boxes of tight wire gauze attached to a long handle; they were meant to be held over an open flame. Poppers offered several benefits, including the ability to contain the popped kernels while also keeping hands away from an exposed flame. Over the years, many improvements were made to the original popper prototype, which made the snack even more accessible to the masses.
As popcorn grew in popularity, it began to appear in all sorts of variations. Louis Ruckheim came up with the first version of Cracker Jack, made from popcorn, peanuts and molasses, during the late 1890s. There are several different stories surrounding how the snack first got its name, but it undoubtedly derived from a popular slang term during the era, meaning “excellent” or “first rate.”

Popcorn’s mass appeal was brought to new heights thanks to movie theaters. Surprisingly, theater owners were not on board with popcorn sales in the beginning. They thought it might create an unnecessary nuisance in addition to requiring expensive changes, like installing outside vents to rid the building of smoky popcorn odors. Hawkers, seeing the potential in popcorn sales, took matters into their own hands and began selling popcorn and Cracker Jack while walking up and down the theater aisles. The Depression eventually changed the minds of theater owners, and they began to view it as a small luxury that patrons could afford. Unlike most treats, popcorn sales actually rose during the Depression. Instead of installing indoor concession areas, theaters charged outside vendors a dollar a day to sell popcorn from outdoor stands. In 1938 Glen W. Dickson, the owner of several theaters throughout the Midwest, began installing popcorn machines in the lobbies of his theaters. The construction changes were costly, but he recovered his investment quickly and his profits skyrocketed. The trend spread quickly. Can you imagine walking into a movie theater today without the scent of popcorn welcoming you inside? I sure can’t.

Recently the GMO debate has gained steam here in the U.S., particularly when it comes to corn. The majority of corn grown in the United States is genetically modified. According to Jeffrey Smith, a GMO expert, the popcorn variety of corn has not yet been genetically modified. This means there is no genetically modified popcorn currently available on the market. Interesting that after all of these years, we’re still enjoying popcorn grown from the same seeds our ancestors used.

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I bleed blue & gold

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Eels rookie Dylan Brown to get his shot in Parramatta halves

He is only 18 and yet to make his NRL debut.

But that hasn’t stopped Brad Arthur from declaring young gun Dylan Brown is on target to get first crack at being Mitchell Moses’ halves partner at Parramatta in 2019.

Corey Norman’s departure to St George Illawarra catapulted the young Kiwi into the spotlight prior to Christmas.

And Arthur has told The Daily Telegraph that Brown’s attitude throughout the summer slog has only enhanced everyone’s confidence in the young Kiwi.

“I have sat him down and told him that we want to give him first opportunity,” Arthursaid.

“I don’t like making promises I can’t keep. It is up to him. At this stage he is training alongside Mitchell and he is earning the trust of his teammates.

“He is growing in confidence. Nothing seems to faze him. He has a good temperament. “He is very calm. He has a lot of tough traits about him.

“He trains hard and he is a bit of a no-nonsense footballer. He is going to give himself every opportunity.”

The Eels first hit out for the top players will be against Canberra at St Marys on February 15 and that will be the first chance for Parra fans to see how Brown handles the step up in grade.

There is plenty of hope growing at the Eels despite the disappointment of last year’s wooden spoon finish.

Membership sales are way up and with the new stadium at Parramatta opening this year the players are thriving on the hype being generated by the fans.

The expectation on Brown has been building ever since it was revealed late last year that the New Zealand Warriors had pinned a target on him to be Shaun Johnson’s long-term replacement.

The Eels were having none of that, coming out publicly and stating that Brown was contracted until the end of 2020 and off limits.

Jaeman Salmon and Will Smith are the other contenders to play in the halves this year, although Salmon is expected to be out of the frame for the opening NRL rounds because of a recent drink driving charge.

Arthur said Salmon was also training to play in the centres, while Smith’s versatility is an added bonus for his hopes of locking down a spot somewhere in the 17-man squad.

The Eels are due to have a training camp on the Central Coast next week before signing off on the pre-season with trials against Canberra and Penrith.

Arthur said he had been impressed with the level of commitment from the players throughout the preseason.

“They are working hard. They are extremely fit,” Arthur said. “It has been long but that is the position we put ourselves in.

“We were back a lot earlier than everyone else.

“We have had a tough week this week, we will give them a couple of days off, and then we are going up to Shelly Beach next week for a bit of a camp.”

Arthur knows there is going to be plenty of attention on Brown but said there was no point hiding from it.

“He can obviously sense there is an opportunity and he wants to put himself in the position to take it,” Arthur added.

“It is not a secret, we want to give him every opportunity. But I am not going to sit here and guarantee and make promises.

“If he continues to train and play with the right attitude, which I am sure he will, I

would say that he is going to get an opportunity. We will keep his role nice and simple.

“What he is really good at is he pushes around the footy, he is not afraid to take the line on and he is brave defensively.

“He will concentrate on those things early in the piece and support Mitchell.

“Mitchell will let us know where we need to get to and it is up to Dylan to play his role.”

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...WQfbP1tvwpdoOfztKnMaCn2hLrROd8zyHkQNPomIyuoBI
 

Eelogical

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I hope everyone is patient with Brown. Would hate to see him get chewed up and spat out like so many before him.
In all seriousness, I'm liking the direction we're heading. I'm sure we're gonna get flogged at times along the journey that is 2019. We've all dissected it thus far in more ways than a leading pathologist. Nut squeezers and pole riders are for the 2018 historians. Eels.............clap3.gif
 

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