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Poupou Escobar

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I'm not sure Brown is any more or any less effective coming off the bench.
It's not about how effective he is - every player would look better coming off the bench against fatigued opposition. The reason he might come off the bench is because we might need him to replace a starter and fill a similar role (being the 'go to' runner when we need a setup carry).

Obviously he can also do this while starting (playing an Alvaro role while Paulo is on the field and then playing the lead role when Paulo has a rest) but he would be fatigued in that case. The real reason Brown might be better off the bench is related to his need to work harder in defence than he has previously. I will elaborate later in the post.
In 2017 he proved himself an 80 minute middle forward. I don't get why you'd waste an interchange bringing him on/off. I reckon he's as effective in minute 5 as he is in minute 75 usually. I'd rather use that interchange to bring on someone a bit more explosive or who will bring a point of difference. You need someone on the park who does what Brown does for 80 minutes. If he's up to it (like he was in 2017) then let's just use him in that role....
The reason Brown was able to play such long minutes in previous years is due to the fact we let him bludge in defence. This requires the other two middle forwards (and hooker) to work much harder to fill the gaps that result in carrying a bloke who shuffles (or walks) in defence.

With Paulo also on the field with him, Brown can no longer play that defensive role where he drags arse while Alvaro, Mannah and/or Moeroa make his tackles for him. He will have to work harder in defence while sharing the field with Paulo, meaning his effectiveness over long minutes will be reduced.
 

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It's not about how effective he is - every player would look better coming off the bench against fatigued opposition. The reason he might come off the bench is because we might need him to replace a starter and fill a similar role (being the 'go to' runner when we need a setup carry).

Obviously he can also do this while starting (playing an Alvaro role while Paulo is on the field and then playing the lead role when Paulo has a rest) but he would be fatigued in that case. The real reason Brown might be better off the bench is related to his need to work harder in defence than he has previously. I will elaborate later in the post.

The reason Brown was able to play such long minutes in previous years is due to the fact we let him bludge in defence. This requires the other two middle forwards (and hooker) to work much harder to fill the gaps that result in carrying a bloke who shuffles (or walks) in defence.

With Paulo also on the field with him, Brown can no longer play that defensive role where he drags arse while Alvaro, Mannah and/or Moeroa make his tackles for him. He will have to work harder in defence while sharing the field with Paulo, meaning his effectiveness over long minutes will be reduced.
I'll leave it to stats men like you but from memory Brown was typically making 150+ metres and 40+ tackles with monotonous regularity in 2017... I never had the impression he was bludging in defence. And I don't recall anyone around these here parts suggesting as much at the time...
 

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Interesting article quoting Brad Fittler doing the rounds Gronky. Get on it mate. Says he bites his tongue when discussing Parramatta. Reckons theres no leadership in the place and they are letting SOO down. Has a dig at The Tigpies as well.
 

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Poupou Escobar

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I'll leave it to stats men like you but from memory Brown was typically making 150+ metres and 40+ tackles with monotonous regularity in 2017... I never had the impression he was bludging in defence. And I don't recall anyone around these here parts suggesting as much at the time...
The 150+ metres were good, but off the back of 20 carries. 40 tackles in 80 minutes is the bare minimum you want from a middle forward. Alvaro makes 40 in 45 minutes ffs.
 

Poupou Escobar

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The dude who won a wooden spoon at the f**ken Roosters? Stuart and Kearney both won their only spoons at Parra. If you can win a spoon at the Roosters you'll win one here.
 

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