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Poupou Escobar

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I hope your right because I have the opposite gut feel to you.

The fact it's Manly and his a junior from there and still lives there could very well play into they're hands.

BA not being re-signed as of yet and a decent offer from them has me thinking he could go.
Good. No player is bigger than the club.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I must admit, this muppet made me laugh. Apparently Manly can offer more than us because they have 10 players off contract. We have close to 20 players off contract and could go after any player we wanted if we were keen to stuff our roster balance.
Yep. We could offer him more but have chosen not to.
 

Eelementary

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Dangerous running game?!?

Well, I mean, he's no James Tedesco, but he's capable of making a line break here and there.

For the record, I think he is a stop gap 5/8 at best.

But he would not play fullback at Manly.

His options, as I see it, would be 5/8, or centre.

And would he leave the Eels to go play centre or 5/8 at another club, for slightly more money?

Seeing as he is our captain, I doubt it...
 
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Not sure that Moanly will offer the terms that his manager is looking for, they have already paid DCE, upgraded the Trbojevics, resigned both front rowers, so it could likely be a play to make us rush into completing the deal.

Personally, rate Gutho but he is not in the same postcode as Tedesco, Turbo, Ponga who would be on the dollars his manager is after. If the club stepped up and bent over for Ayoub's demands, where would that leave management in any future signings, need to take a chill pill and let it play out.

Unfortunately , if he wants the big dollars , he may have to go, not sure who would stump up the dollars, but that's what happens as the media is manipulated by player managers.

Ayoub has his mates in the media doing most of the work. For once I hope our management see through crap and call his bluff. If we lose him we lose him who cares
 

Eelementary

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Yesterday I suggested Semi if Gutherson leaves. How about Valentine Holmes ? Give him an offer he can’t refuse. Make him the highest paid player in the game. It’s not like we don’t have the coin, the facilities and the profile. f**k North QLD. He needs a big stage if he returns to the NRL not f**king sleepy Townsville.

Feed his ego, I say.

I think we will need another decent forward, before another back.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Well, I mean, he's no James Tedesco, but he's capable of making a line break here and there.

For the record, I think he is a stop gap 5/8 at best.

But he would not play fullback at Manly.

His options, as I see it, would be 5/8, or centre.

And would he leave the Eels to go play centre or 5/8 at another club, for slightly more money?

Seeing as he is our captain, I doubt it...
You understand ‘captain’ is an extra job that requires more work? Like being the WHS rep. If you’re lumped with that you should expect more money, not less.
 

Bazal

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Holmes ? Are you serious ? Limited my arse. He is a f**king superstar.

He's fast and evasive.

The Sharks often preferred Dugan or Moylan at the back. Dugan is a higher effort player and Moylan is light years better as a ball player.
 

Eelementary

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You understand ‘captain’ is an extra job that requires more work? Like being the WHS rep. If you’re lumped with that you should expect more money, not less.

True.

But I don't think we are talking $100,000 extra here - it's likely to be around the $50,000 or so mark.

And he may head to Manly, but while he may get paid more, he would not be playing at fullback.

I think he would stay here, given that choice.
 

Avenger

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He's fast and evasive.

The Sharks often preferred Dugan or Moylan at the back. Dugan is a higher effort player and Moylan is light years better as a ball player.
Sorry mate. He killed it when he played at 1. Was always going to end up there like Hayne. He is also faster than Jarryd. The 40m time trials in the NFL proved it. He is the closest I’ve seen to Hayne in recent times.
 

Eelementary

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Not if Gutho goes ? We need a fullback.

If Gutherson leaves, maybe our best best may be to throw French the number 1, and see who is available after 2020?

I don't know.

I like Holmes, but he's no fullback, imo.

He's a bit like Semi - ridiculous runner of the ball, but limited ball skills, and I don't think his involvement would be high enough to be a gun fullback.
 

Happy MEel

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Not sure that Moanly will offer the terms that his manager is looking for, they have already paid DCE, upgraded the Trbojevics, resigned both front rowers, so it could likely be a play to make us rush into completing the deal.

Personally, rate Gutho but he is not in the same postcode as Tedesco, Turbo, Ponga who would be on the dollars his manager is after. If the club stepped up and bent over for Ayoub's demands, where would that leave management in any future signings, need to take a chill pill and let it play out.

Unfortunately , if he wants the big dollars , he may have to go, not sure who would stump up the dollars, but that's what happens as the media is manipulated by player managers.
So apparently;
DCE is on $1.25k
Jake T is on $700k
Tom T is on $900k
Sironen is on $400k

Throw in Tapau who would have to be on at least $600k (probably more) and that’s $3.85k of a $9.6k salary cap. If Gutho signs for $750k then that’s basically half the cap in 6 players leaving the other 24 to split the rest.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp...ble-for-manly-sea-eagles-20150604-ghgrho.html

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/manly-sea-eagles-secure-5-million-men-jake-and-tom-trbojevic-for-next-four-years-20161008-grxzp7.html

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/cou...e/news-story/377362658bbf5b20d31c39d32d3e5fe4
 

Stevie

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If it’s even money he may go as it’s “home” and let’s be honest, living in Manly slightly more appealing than Parramatta.
 

Eelementary

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I don't know if Holmes would consider the NRL, tbh - even if he fails in the NFL, I am not sure of his ego would allow him to come back to this game.
 

Happy MEel

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If Gutherson leaves, maybe our best best may be to throw French the number 1, and see who is available after 2020?

I don't know.

I like Holmes, but he's no fullback, imo.

He's a bit like Semi - ridiculous runner of the ball, but limited ball skills, and I don't think his involvement would be high enough to be a gun fullback.
I said it for this year and I’ll repeat it for next...

We won’t make the 8 if French is our first choice fullback!!!

I’d be ropable if we let Gutho go for anywhere near $50k (the supposed difference from what we are currently offering) if the alternative is Bevan f**king French!!
 

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