Rumours and Stuff

[emjaycee]

Hang on...have I missed something? Why would some "corporate" who was attracted to the club by the stadium be into providing TPA's? I'm guessing if you want a corporate box, your not considered someone who can provide TPA's (legally anyway).

You reckon Nike execs dont get invited to corporate boxes and bring Mennings along?

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Hang on...have I missed something? Why would some "corporate" who was attracted to the club by the stadium be into providing TPA's? I'm guessing if you want a corporate box, your not considered someone who can provide TPA's (legally anyway).

I wouldn't assume that. You can't be a club sponsor or affiliate, but there are plenty of people who buy corporate boxes who do so for reasons other than supporting the club playing there.

 

[Noise]

I think people rating Gutherson as far better then Johnston are a little bias. Different style players but Johnston causes so much chaos in attack with a bit of a space due to feet and speed.

Chaos in attack? He does f**k all. He only had 2 line breaks in the first 7 games and a measly 11 tackle busts. Also 0 line breaks assists.

 

[Happy MEel]

Chaos in attack? He does f**k all. He only had 2 line breaks in the first 7 games and a measly 11 tackle busts. Also 0 line breaks assists.

I think he meant chaos to the Bunnies’ attack

 

[hindy111]

Chaos in attack? He does f**k all. He only had 2 line breaks in the first 7 games and a measly 11 tackle busts. Also 0 line breaks assists.

Watch different games. I see a very dangerous runner of the ball.

 

[Noise]

Watch different games. I see a very dangerous runner of the ball.

I've watched every Souths game this year. He is not dangerous at all. He is easy to tackle as evidenced by his lack of tackle busts and f**k all line breaks. And no playmaking ability. What 'chaos' does he create?

 

[Bazal]

I've watched every Souths game this year. He is not dangerous at all. He is easy to tackle as evidenced by his lack of tackle busts and f**k all line breaks. And no playmaking ability. What 'chaos' does he create?

Yeah Johnston is a slightly improved Nathan Merritt.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yep. I’d rather Gutho than Gagai.

Gagai has more power and speed and more big match experience. But if he's on $750k he's on too much. I'd say there would be a significant TPA component if he's on anywhere near that much.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I wouldn't trust the media outlets as a source for truth, the player managers leak figures well,above the actual deal as part of their attempt to attract new clients.

Been lucky enough to know a few players, and their advice is that published amounts are often $100k to $200k above reality.

Unless the story is that a player is on much less than the value he is providing. Then I'm sure they bump his price down in reporting. Hyperbole is a great way to increase drama, which sells well, especially with sports fans.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I've watched every Souths game this year. He is not dangerous at all. He is easy to tackle as evidenced by his lack of tackle busts and f**k all line breaks. And no playmaking ability. What 'chaos' does he create?

Agreed. Johnston is very average, as are a few of the top eight fullbacks. It's not the essential position it used to be back when the kick chase wasn't one of the most important parts of the game.

 

[Avenger]

I reckon you would be fooled by a jack in the box.

Not fooled, just scared.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Quite a decent article on the Gutho situation, including discussion from Dr Nathan Gibbs on the increase in risk of future injury once you've had 2 major ACL injuries:

Gutherson broke down in 2015 and then suffered a second ACL rupture in round 20 against the Wests Tigers back in 2017. He missed the opening couple of months of last season and thankfully had no issues since.

While Gutherson himself said he had no issues with his knee – and any club who did "it was their loss" – respected sports medico and NSW Origin team doctor Nathan Gibbs said the chances of a third rupture, or even injuring his good left knee, increased dramatically.

"If you look at a lot of the good players, Joey Johns had an ACL recon, James Tedesco has had one, lots of good players have had the one recon and come back and played well,'' Gibbs told the Herald.

"But when you have had two ACLs, it puts him in that next level when it comes to the risk of further injury.

"Two recons means there may be an inherent weakness in ligament strength for that individual. And one of the biggest issues with the ACL is amount of time out it takes to recover. You can't come back any sooner than six months.''

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/ki...s-worth-650-000-a-season-20190502-p51jim.html

 

[jk13]

Ha! I knew it! Weak knees. We had a doctor on here once that knew all about this. From memory he saved jarryds career

 

[hindy111]

Id be open to MJ,MANU given 2 yr deals and Mannah 1 more.

Pending on what Alvaro,Marata and Tepai want happy to let walk or upgrade these 2 position with some studs. No point signing guys and having 1mill spare and no spare spots in top 17 or guys costing over 200k who play for Wenty when we are full strength. Terepo may be another to make way pending on how we build the side.

If we can find a stud backrower and prop you need to let a few go.

Hoffman,Taka,GL,Gower,Davey do not get contracts. Bevan most likely not unless Guth leaves.

I am warming to D.Edwards on the cheap

 

[emjaycee]

Id be open to MJ,MANU given 2 yr deals and Mannah 1 more.

Pending on what Alvaro,Marata and Tepai want happy to let walk or upgrade these 2 position with some studs. No point signing guys and having 1mill spare and no spare spots in top 17 or guys costing over 200k who play for Wenty when we are full strength. Terepo may be another to make way pending on how we build the side.

If we can find a stud backrower and prop you need to let a few go.

Hoffman,Taka,GL,Gower,Davey do not get contracts. Bevan most likely not unless Guth leaves.

I am warming to D.Edwards on the cheap

What's Davey done wrong?
He was signed as depth/backup and we haven't needed him yet. Why wouldnt you sign him on minimum again for the same reason?
By all reports he is doing what is needed in Reggies for a player of his calibre.

 

[Happy MEel]

Agreed. Johnston is very average, as are a few of the top eight fullbacks. It's not the essential position it used to be back when the kick chase wasn't one of the most important parts of the game.

So having a player with one of the highest work rates in the game to chase down those kicks seems like a valuable commodity. It only adds to his value that he can also ball play and is a leader.

 

[hindy111]

What's Davey done wrong?
He was signed as depth/backup and we haven't needed him yet. Why wouldnt you sign him on minimum again for the same reason?
By all reports he is doing what is needed in Reggies for a player of his calibre.

If he plays NRL this year then perhaps I would. If he doesnt then sorry. To many younger bucks will take his spot.

 

[hindy111]

So having a player with one of the highest work rates in the game to chase down those kicks seems like a valuable commodity. It only adds to his value that he can also ball play and is a leader.

Issue is his defense is average and so is his positioning. Johnston rarely gets caught out of position. And has more acceleration for the times he does to negate the error.
Gutherson is very good on those 7 tackle sets and going for a run from the tap and has some ball playing skills. Id prefer him over Johnston but not much in it.

 

[Happy MEel]

Issue is his defense is average and so is his positioning. Johnston rarely gets caught out of position. And has more acceleration for the times he does to negate the error.
Gutherson is very good on those 7 tackle sets and going for a run from the tap and has some ball playing skills. Id prefer him over Johnston but not much in it.

Johnson does have a good tackle efficiency for a fullback (71.7%) but Gutho’s is comparable to Teddy’s (63.1% vs 63.2%). Positioning is quite a broad statement as each individual “error” needs to be looked at in context of the previous play. Ie. was the fullback involved in the previous play which impacted his ability to cover a try on the next.

I have no issues with Gutho’s ability to get to kicks on the full. His run metres suggests he is more than capable in this regard.

 

[IFR33K]

Id be open to MJ,MANU given 2 yr deals and Mannah 1 more.

Pending on what Alvaro,Marata and Tepai want happy to let walk or upgrade these 2 position with some studs. No point signing guys and having 1mill spare and no spare spots in top 17 or guys costing over 200k who play for Wenty when we are full strength. Terepo may be another to make way pending on how we build the side.

If we can find a stud backrower and prop you need to let a few go.

Hoffman,Taka,GL,Gower,Davey do not get contracts. Bevan most likely not unless Guth leaves.

I am warming to D.Edwards on the cheap

Marata has been huge thus far.