Rumours and Stuff

[Joshuatheeel]

Regarding the 4 year contract, gutho isn’t the fastest back going around however currently he is fast enough for fullback.

However if you factor in his ACL injuries and that most players lose speed as they age, by year 4, it’s quite possible Gutho may no longer be suitable for fullback.

So I can understand only offering a 3 year deal (additionally there is his injury history)

 

[Poupou Escobar]

When he’s too slow for fullback he will certainly still be good enough as a supporting half. His kicking game will improve because he works so hard.

 

[Gronk]

What time are you leaving?

About 12 mate. This week I'm heading out on the M2 via the harbour tunnel, so you'll need to stalk some other merkin.

 

[Gronk]

According to Des, Manly have no plans regarding Gutho.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/05/03/hasler-shuts-down-talks-with-gutherson/

Bwahahaha. Idiots.

 

[Incorrect]

I dunno why he would do Parra a favour by stating this. Unless he doesn’t want his fans to get their hopes up and then piss their knickers when Gutherson stays at Parra.

Yeah, he's nothing if not snakey old Des.... could well be playing games here....

 

[ash411]

When he’s too slow for fullback he will certainly still be good enough as a supporting half. His kicking game will improve because he works so hard.

Yeah but wouldn't Drown and Moses be our long term halves? Surely both of them will "Outlive" Gutho at Parra?

 

[ash411]

Yeah, he's nothing if not snakey old Des.... could well be playing games here....

Why would he bother?

 

[84 Baby]

Why would he bother?

I actually think it’s a bad sign for us. If he weren’t interested, he’d say nothing. By saying this, I think it indicates they are interested but they also don’t want to be dragged into bidding war. If media bullshitted about one offer, what’s to stop them from bullshitting our counter offer to Manly, and so on

 

[amitropo]

Regarding the 4 year contract, gutho isn’t the fastest back going around however currently he is fast enough for fullback.

However if you factor in his ACL injuries and that most players lose speed as they age, by year 4, it’s quite possible Gutho may no longer be suitable for fullback.

So I can understand only offering a 3 year deal (additionally there is his injury history)

He probably won’t be able to claim insurance due to it being pre existing?
First incident occurred while at manly or is it the other knee since he signed with us

 

[Incorrect]

Why would he bother?

Because he's mad as a cut snake.... f**king crazy!! Loco I tell ya....

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Didn’t one of the journos ask if he thinks he’s worth that much? Or am I misremembering?

I meant the bit about his saying how appealing it would be for him to go "home".

 

[ash411]

I actually think it’s a bad sign for us. If he weren’t interested, he’d say nothing. By saying this, I think it indicates they are interested but they also don’t want to be dragged into bidding war. If media bullshitted about one offer, what’s to stop them from bullshitting our counter offer to Manly, and so on

You don't get from his body language that he thinks it's ridiculous that they're making a play for him?

I mean Des is a shrewd operator yes, but it serves no purpose to play silly buggers with this, especially since Parra have already gone on record saying they won't get into a bidding war over anyone (not in those exact words, yes, but that's what they've said)

I'm pretty sure Gutho is the furthest thing from his mind. If he is interested and they do get him? OK. there are other fullbacks in the NRL is my opinion.

 

[emjaycee]

I actually think it’s a bad sign for us. If he weren’t interested, he’d say nothing. By saying this, I think it indicates they are interested but they also don’t want to be dragged into bidding war. If media bullshitted about one offer, what’s to stop them from bullshitting our counter offer to Manly, and so on

He was asked directly - firstly about the alleged meeting and then whether Manly were interested in signing Gutho. All he did was answer the questions. If he had said nothing imagine the headlines:
"Hasler refuses to rule out Manly play for Gutherson"

 

[Noise]

Des is the best deflector in the NRL. I wouldn't believe a word he says.

 

[Gazzamatta]

So where are we at with gutho ? I think the latest is that he wants (and we offered him) $650k. The sticking point is a 3 or 4 year deal ?

AND.
He demands BA is re signed IMMEDIATELY.

 

[84 Baby]

You don't get from his body language that he thinks it's ridiculous that they're making a play for him?

I mean Des is a shrewd operator yes, but it serves no purpose to play silly buggers with this, especially since Parra have already gone on record saying they won't get into a bidding war over anyone (not in those exact words, yes, but that's what they've said)

I'm pretty sure Gutho is the furthest thing from his mind. If he is interested and they do get him? OK. there are other fullbacks in the NRL is my opinion.

He was asked directly - firstly about the alleged meeting and then whether Manly were interested in signing Gutho. All he did was answer the questions. If he had said nothing imagine the headlines:
"Hasler refuses to rule out Manly play for Gutherson"

I’m talking from Des’s point of view. He’s not playing silly buggers or throwing us a bone, he’s just doing what’s best for Manly. He may or may not be actually interested but he could have easily said they hadn’t been contacted by Gutho and left out the stuff about cap position

 

[Bazal]

When he’s too slow for fullback he will certainly still be good enough as a supporting half. His kicking game will improve because he works so hard.

Yeah I think his future is still probably centre or five-eighth in more of a Blake Green mould. Kick and pass and allow for a more attacking seven.

I think pace is much less of a requirement at centre. Or more accurately, there are a wide variety of centre types. If you can beat your man, put the winger and edge forwards into space, and defend then you can be a quality centre without being that fast. And Guth can do all that.

Obviously if he maintains his OK pace, he'll stay fullback. It's probably his best position right now

 

[Twizzle]

hahahahahahaha

if Ayoub doesn't look like the biggest f**kwit on the planet, I dont know who does

f**king lying scumbag

 

[84 Baby]

Yeah I think his future is still probably centre or five-eighth in more of a Blake Green mould. Kick and pass and allow for a more attacking seven.

I think pace is much less of a requirement at centre. Or more accurately, there are a wide variety of centre types. If you can beat your man, put the winger and edge forwards into space, and defend then you can be a quality centre without being that fast. And Guth can do all that.

Obviously if he maintains his OK pace, he'll stay fullback. It's probably his best position right now

If he can vastly improve his kicking, he reminds me of Lockyer. A little

 

[Snoochies]

If Gutho signs elsewhere, he'll kill it, if he signs with us he'll do a knee. That's the Parra way ‍