Rumours and Stuff

[Suitman]

@Barry O'Speedwagon what then do you make of Peter Beattie's pronouncement that he will not be welcome in RL. If his appeal is upheld and he is found to have been wrongly dismissed by RU.

Didn't Beattie also claim that RL is a game of inclusiveness? Yet the guy has already decided Israel Folau is not welcome?

 

[Dibs]

Didn't Beattie also claim that RL is a game of inclusiveness? Yet the guy has already decided Israel Folau is not welcome?

He certainly said in reference to not singing the anthem that NRL respects the right to have different views

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Freddy Fittler was pretty damn discriminatory last night when he refused to put Klemmer back on.
(although very inclusive by picking Cleary in the first place)

 

[Twizzle]

Just like you're entitled to your beliefs, values and opinions, so is he. You're mocking him for that...

nope

he is entitled to his beliefs, or should I say brainwashing, but posting hate speech about gays on social media, especially when we just legalised SSM, is the reason he was sacked as it was allegedly in breach of his contract, and rightly so imo

a person in his situation being idolised by so many can have a huge affect on the mental health of so many young gays that follow RU and that's why it was allegedly in his contract

a person his his position should have shown more responsibility imo

 

[84 Baby]

If it wasn't how could anyone say Folau has done anything wrong? Even non-religious people understand hell to be a bad place where people are punished for their sins. It's in the f**king dictionary.

So gay people can be religious, but not the same religion as Folau, but it’s all the same hell?

 

[JokerEel]

Titans should never have offered him 1 million a season.....

Would give him a shot at the Eels for 600k...

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The difference is that non-religious humans don't claim some overriding special superior authority based on a book of dubious authorship and containing some forms of behaviour by God that are just plain repulsive. Too much smoting and murder for me. Non-religious people may refer to logic or reason, or just plain self-interest, but they get no special privilege or protection when they do it.

But nobody does get any special privilege or protection. We don't live in a theocracy, but there is plenty of evidence in the past hundred years of non-religious people finding 'special superior authority' to justify privileging themselves (often violently) at the expense of others. Logic, Reason, Fairness and this age's uber-deity Science were all used as justification.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

a person in his situation being idolised by so many can have a huge affect on the mental health of so many young gays that follow RU and that's why it was allegedly in his contract

Won't somebody think of the young gays!?!?

What a load of shit. Young gays that believe in hell but hadn't heard the concept that homosexual sex will send them there until Israel Folau mentioned it on social media? Give me a f**king break.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So gay people can be religious, but not the same religion as Folau, but it’s all the same hell?

So when he said they're going to hell he could have meant anything and shouldn't have gotten the sack? See, I can play this game too.

 

[84 Baby]

So when he said they're going to hell he could have meant anything and shouldn't have gotten the sack? See, I can play this game too.

Well he could have I suppose but apparently everyone knows hell is a bad place. To the point that it’s in the f**king dictionary. So perhaps he meant hell as in something else but then I guess he’d be the exception to the rule that hell is the same to all religions

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Well he could have I suppose but apparently everyone knows hell is a bad place. To the point that it’s in the f**king dictionary. So perhaps he meant hell as in something else but then I guess he’d be the exception to the rule that hell is the same to all religions

Well you can be a different religion to somebody else, including 'no religion', and still have the same idea of hell. You'd just have different ideas of who will end up there or even whether or not it's all bullshit.

 

[84 Baby]

Well you can be a different religion to somebody else, including 'no religion', and still have the same idea of hell. You'd just have different ideas of who will end up there or even whether or not it's all bullshit.

Then you can understand why some people who believe in a common idea of a bad place may take offence to being told they’ll be headed there. Whether they should take offence is neither here nor there when your argument stems around accepting (or not taking offence) to one marginalisation to the detriment of another

 

[Gronk]

Won't somebody think of the young gays!?!?

What a load of shit. Young gays that believe in hell but hadn't heard the concept that homosexual sex will send them there until Israel Folau mentioned it on social media? Give me a f**king break.

I’d like to know what George Pell thinks about this.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Then you can understand why some people who believe in a common idea of a bad place may take offence to being told they’ll be headed there. Whether they should take offence is neither here nor there when your argument stems around accepting (or not taking offence) to one marginalisation to the detriment of another

Except I don't think anyone should have a right not to be offended. This Folau saga promotes the idea that some people do have the right not to be offended while others don't.

And I find that offensive.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I’d like to know what George Pell thinks about this.

I'm sure he's gutted that Israel Folau said he's going to hell.

 

[84 Baby]

Except I don't think anyone should have a right not to be offended. This Folau saga promotes the idea that some people do have the right not to be offended while others don't.

And I find that offensive.

I agree with that. I was just messing around. I don’t give a shit what anyone thinks unless it benefits me.

And I find you offensive.

 

[Twizzle]

Won't somebody think of the young gays!?!?

What a load of shit. Young gays that believe in hell but hadn't heard the concept that homosexual sex will send them there until Israel Folau mentioned it on social media? Give me a f**king break.

OK, you don't understand, I get that, but don't pretend depression in the gay community doesn't exist,, especially the younger more influenced ones

https://lgbtihealth.org.au/statistics/

But yeh, being told they will go to hell will help cheer them the f**k up

 

[Soto]

nope

he is entitled to his beliefs, or should I say brainwashing, but posting hate speech about gays on social media, especially when we just legalised SSM, is the reason he was sacked as it was allegedly in breach of his contract, and rightly so imo

a person in his situation being idolised by so many can have a huge affect on the mental health of so many young gays that follow RU and that's why it was allegedly in his contract

a person his his position should have shown more responsibility imo

This is bulls#it. Too many ppl are brainwashed themselves. He does not specifically single out gays FFS..get over ur fkn selves. Look at his post. He basically calls out everyone. Sticks and stones...u know the rest..

 

[IFR33K]

Poor Israel getting battered pillar to post, loses his job over it, and we have some twats last night refuse to sing the national anthem running around on the big stage.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

OK, you don't understand, I get that, but don't pretend depression in the gay community doesn't exist,, especially the younger more influenced ones

https://lgbtihealth.org.au/statistics/

But yeh, being told they will go to hell will help cheer them the f**k up

I don't doubt they have mental health issues.