Rumours and Stuff

[Joshuatheeel]

The fact he competed is a good sign.
It takes players 30 games to get up to speed of NRL. So judge him them

That’s what BA has said about Stone, in a recent interview he basically said he needs to give him good minutes in 4-5 games to get him up to the speed NRL.

To bad the merkin got injured!!

I reckon there’s always a spot for a “smaller” more mobile middle forward in a NRL squad (obviously if they are good enough) to provide some balance.

 

[Twizzle]

I'm sure BA likes a bit of mongrel as well, and Stone has that by the buckets full

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I've got a bit of a mongrel.

 

[Happy MEel]

Well he was in much better form when he signed his current contract.

Was he though? He was younger and offered more potential, but I don’t necessarily believe he was in that much better form.

 

[Happy MEel]

"much better form" - He was??

Like someone mentioned earlier, I think he was signed on at an inflated price because of potential. I think our current offer is (hopefully) scaled back based on his actuals, not potential. I don't consider his form right now a world away from what it was last time he signed...

Lol. I should have just said:

“See Incorrect above”

 

[Twizzle]

I've got a bit of a mongrel.

yeh but we need a bit of size in our forward pack, its not U/12s

 

[Happy MEel]

Anyone got his stats for this year? Cos I wonder if a couple of dumb penalties and the head knock stuff is affecting perceptions more than it should.

2019:

11 games
0 line breaks
0 line break assists
13 tackle breaks (total)
3 offloads
26.5 tackles per game
2 missed tackles per game
70.25m per game

Yep, he’s plodding massively this year. That’s fringe first grade material, which I’m sure is what is reflected in his contract offer...and he’s not satisfied with it.

 

[hindy111]

Anyone remember Jnrs 7-9 week ban for a dangerous tackle?
Has there been a suspension since that was as long?
George needs 12 weeks for last nights eye incident.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Tepai is only outside the 17 because Gower is in terrific form. Your assertion that he has been offered a reduced salary is made up in an attempt to strengthen your argument. He is still only 23 and has played 101 FG games FFS. You can't manufacture that experience and there would few on the market who could equal it.

It IS possible that the Eels are taking a cautious approach with his head injuries and the length of his next contract could be impacted with this approach.

If he can continue to play at a high level and not be hampered by concussion, then he would continue to be a great addition to our squad IMHO.

At his current money?

 

[Gazzamatta]

Tepais best game for mine was when he owned Toolooloolmo before being injured. God he was great that night.
He seems a lot larger this year.
Preseason 2018 forwards were trained to be lean and fast.
Preseason 2019, oops we stuffed up. Lets get them BIG.
Some players probably coped with this. Obviously Alvaro and Tepai havent. So is it all the players fault?

 

[hindy111]

They bulked Alvaro and Mannah up and Tepai along with Kafusi.
All ended up NSW cup standard.
Jnr lost weight.
Terepo maintained as did Evan's and Gower, Brown.

The club f**ked up big time with the overweight sluggish and unfit forwards they moulded them into.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

2019:

11 games
0 line breaks
0 line break assists
13 tackle breaks (total)
3 offloads
26.5 tackles per game
2 missed tackles per game
70.25m per game

Yep, he’s plodding massively this year. That’s fringe first grade material, which I’m sure is what is reflected in his contract offer...and he’s not satisfied with it.

Cheers mate

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

They bulked Alvaro and Mannah up and Tepai along with Kafusi.
All ended up NSW cup standard.
Jnr lost weight.
Terepo maintained as did Evan's and Gower, Brown.

The club f**ked up big time with the overweight sluggish and unfit forwards they moulded them into.

Bring back AFL guy!

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Was he though? He was younger and offered more potential, but I don’t necessarily believe he was in that much better form.

He was playing out wide. Nearly every forward attacks better on the edge than in the middle.

 

[Happy MEel]

He was playing out wide. Nearly every forward attacks better on the edge than in the middle.

Probably no better than other edge forwards though. He was signed on potential but didn’t really kick on.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

2019:

11 games
0 line breaks
0 line break assists
13 tackle breaks (total)
3 offloads
26.5 tackles per game
2 missed tackles per game
70.25m per game

Yep, he’s plodding massively this year. That’s fringe first grade material, which I’m sure is what is reflected in his contract offer...and he’s not satisfied with it.

For a quick rule of thumb look at their fantasy points. These are derived from real stats, and provide good comparison between years for a given player as well as more general comparison between different players.

Moeroa's aggregated average score is down nearly 25% on last year. Only Alvaro's decline of nearly 40% is worse.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

They bulked Alvaro and Mannah up and Tepai along with Kafusi.
All ended up NSW cup standard.
Jnr lost weight.
Terepo maintained as did Evan's and Gower, Brown.

The club f**ked up big time with the overweight sluggish and unfit forwards they moulded them into.

It's the reason quality middle forwards are so expensive at the moment. Reserve grade is full of hard workers and 120 kilo monsters. The difficulty is finding blokes who are big but also work hard enough while they're on the field.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Probably no better than other edge forwards though. He was signed on potential but didn’t really kick on.

I reckon edge forwards get paid very well. If you sign a bloke as an edge forward and then you don't use him out wide you're wasting your money.

 

[hindy111]

It's the reason quality middle forwards are so expensive at the moment. Reserve grade is full of hard workers and 120 kilo monsters. The difficulty is finding blokes who are big but also work hard enough while they're on the field.

Yes.
Look at how many go from Origin level to average first graders and even nsw cup.
RCG signed his contract at a great time. Vaughn was brilliant last season but has not recaptured that form.

 

[strider]

I think he’d be on close to $400k now and our new offer was substantially less.

Wouldnt surprise me if he's on 450k+ atm

I think 250k to maybe 300k would be a fair offer under the current cap