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Poupou Escobar

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It's an interesting idea. In any argument there are facts that support one side and facts that support the other. If there weren't there would be no argument.

So when one side only presents the facts that suit them the other side will counter with the alternative facts. It's not rocket brain.
 

Eelogical

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It's an interesting idea. In any argument there are facts that support one side and facts that support the other. If there weren't there would be no argument.

So when one side only presents the facts that suit them the other side will counter with the alternative facts. It's not rocket brain.
What happens if both sides are just talking shit, just like two doctors discussing a colonoscopy procedure?
 

Poupou Escobar

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Nobody has all the facts. The ones they don't have are alternative facts. Perhaps one of the doctors thinks colonoscopies can only be performed with a colonoscope. The other one might mention it can also be done with a stick.
 

Bandwagon

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Facts are a constant. The variables, or the alternatives, are only the gaps in our knowledge and the way we choose to interpret and represent them.
 

Gronk

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Nobody has all the facts. The ones they don't have are alternative facts. Perhaps one of the doctors thinks colonoscopies can only be performed with a colonoscope. The other one might mention it can also be done with a stick.
Rubbish. Facts are determined by consensus of fair minded peers.You have mixed the doctrine of facts/evidence with science (which is mischievous to say the least) as science is fluid.
 

Gary Gutful

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Facts are a constant. The variables, or the alternatives, are only the gaps in our knowledge and the way we choose to interpret and represent them.
Agreed. Some people might have a different view on which facts are relevant, but that doesn't make them 'alternative'.

The shit that Conway was trying to spin wasn't even in reference to facts. It was about justifying an alternative opinion.
 

Gary Gutful

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It's an interesting idea. In any argument there are facts that support one side and facts that support the other. If there weren't there would be no argument.
People don't need facts to support having an argument. Just a strongly held position that isn't easily swayed.

You of all people should know this.
 

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