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No, you actually need some stars but your biggest paid players also need to be leaders.
I have stated plenty of times that he was a great player. My insinuation is that he made the players around him worse.
I’m joking mate. I think he has done a top job. I wouldn’t be sacking him anytime soon.
Well that's obvious because we had a good team back then. It wasn't until he became expensive and influential that we nosedived.
Fancy that.
They wouldn't want him. Only shit clubs ever signed him.
That's what I said.
I'm sure if Hayne came through the Storms junior system Bellamy would of f**ked him off.
Nobody 'comes through' their junior system. They are all hand picked.
Thank f**k for that.
Robinson would be my first choice and I think it is doable if he wasn't so gung ho to go back to France to allow his kids to grow up in France. So if he is not possible, I would have a shot at Bellamy. He always says that he is keen to retire, but you never know, if a strong and ready to go the next level team like Parra is right now came discretely and wisely to his door with the right inducements(they would be whatever the man himself expressed that he wanted and obviously doable from our point of view) then who knows? It isn't out of the question. Remember, this is what the best managed organizations do. The achieve what is seemingly the impossible.
But who I think is very doable is Bennett. Well until we went and offered BA two more freakin years that is. Bennett has one more year left with the bunnies and so did BA. That would have been perfect for us. Bennett hasn't hidden the fact that he would love to continue coaching after the bunnies and he loves coming into a club with a ready to kill roster. He is still a brilliant coach that knows exactly how to handle all types of player personalities and doesn't over complicate their minds with to much over the top tactics and ideas. His teams are always well prepared, they are great defending teams and know what to do with the ball. Look at how well he has the bunnies going this year with a very limited forward pack and injuries.
But now that we have extended BA's contract, I think it would be very unlikely that we would sack him before the extension even kicked in.
Therefore, you may think Flanagan is toxic and I must admit I think he he has shown that he doesn't care much for the rules, but his record speaks for itself. He knows how to coach and manage players. They all love him and are loyal. He knows talent and knows how to assemble it. He knows how to get the best out of players and he is a winner. So yes he may not be everyones cup of tea but he could probably win it for us within a couple of years with this roster.
Greeny is also another option that I think could work, but I have a slight question mark over him only because he did it with the great JT as his main man. Now that is not to say the guy can't coach, he is a great attacking tactician and coach, but due to his lack of success outside of Thurston led team, there is that slight question mark and also is he willing to come down(with family) to Sydney at this stage of his career/life when he has already stated that he wants to stay in QLD. But I wouldn't be against us signing him he also knows what it takes to win the big one and he definitely would be worth a shot.
Madge as much as I like the guy as a coach, I think he is too intense and can get players offside. Sure he has won a GF, but still he doesn't seem the best people manager out there and we could lose a few players from the club due to his ruthless coaching style. With coaches like him, you need players that are willing to be subjected to physical(training) and verbal/mental abuse and I don't think there are too many players around today that are willing to put up with that. So what would probably happen is he would weed out the personnel that don't come up to his standards and hopefully then bring in quality players that do.
Remember even at Souths, he got old fairly quickly once they won the GF. The fear would be that due to not having strong characters like Sam Burgess and other seasoned campaigners to carry the load that he would be just to much for some of our thinner skinned players of today. He would have to get very quick results I reckon or else all Hell could break loose. He would be worth the risk only in case of emergency, break glass type of stuff. I prefer the coach that commands respect and authority without the constant abuses to get there. Also remember, Parra have a lot of Islander/Maori players and they are notorious for not fairing to well when given the stick.
Hassler would be great and I reckon could have a lot of success here at Parra, but he ain't leaving Manly now for at least 5 years if ever. But he is a wacky kind of players coach that every player loves playing for. He would get us a GF with this team for sure I reckon. He stiffens up defenses real well and then gets each player playing to his strength very quickly, while all along players loving him. Very similar to Bennett from that point of view. But he isn't even an option really.
Out of the untried coaches, I have a sneaking suspicion that Craig Fitzgibbon could be the next great coach coming through. I just like his temperament and he seems to be ready to go. If we were to go for a rookie option I would take a shot at him. He has also been working under T. Robinson now for a number of years and he would have learnt quite a lot in how to deal with people and how to deal with many different types of club management scenarios correctly and game tactics of course. Remember Paul Green was also an assistant to T.Robinson.
Anyway these are my thoughts on the subject. There are a number of coaches that could do the job, another that is great at developing players is Anthony Griffin. He wouldn't be the worst choice, but he can be a prickly character, so again may find himself out of favour with the players quick smart if the results are less then what was expected. My fear with him is that he is a little to similar to BA that he can develop players well enough, but not sure if he can take them to the next level and win it. I suppose if he has enough goes at it and a quality roster long enough, just like BA he may get there, but how large is our window?
I would have loved for us to have gotten Ivan Cleary. I know many here aren't big fans, but I am. He is a very talented coach. The only reason Gus got rid of him was not because he was tired or couldn't coach for Pete's sake, but Gus was being Gus and wanted more input into the team and Cleary didn't like it. So he got rid of him and appointed a coach that he thought he could manage/handle better. Didn't work out as expected though for good old Gus.
The way our defence has improved is astonishing and is what has won us most of our games.
Good point. Assistant coaches are invaluable. I’m happy for BA to stay for the next two years, however after that time his tenure will amount to a decade. You would think he’d jag a comp by then. If not, reassess and see what’s out there. Hopefully it will be someone like Trent Robinson if we need a change.
