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Gary Gutful

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I rarely agreed with what RWilson wrote and her roll as full time News Ltd shit stirrer, however 54 is way too young for anyone. Cancer is a bitch.

RIP Rebecca.
She was just doing a job.

Makes all of the bitching and whining about her articles seem fairly insignificant.
 

Twizzle

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Regardless of what has happened in the past that is way to young.

Our thoughts are with her family and friends.
 

Chipmunk

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I rarely agreed with what RWilson wrote and her roll as full time News Ltd shit stirrer, however 54 is way too young for anyone. Cancer is a bitch.

RIP Rebecca.

I noticed her a few times on Sports Night on Sky News during the year. She didn't look well for a while.
 

Gronk

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I don't get Max's point. Why pay him anything after he became injured then?
Reading between the lines Max offered Watmerkin a lump sum rather than monthly increments. The lump sum was discounted because it was offered up front. I'd say the talk about court etc is OTT.
 
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Reading between the lines Max offered Watmerkin a lump sum rather than monthly increments. The lump sum was discounted because it was offered up front. I'd say the talk about court etc is OTT.
Paying up front might be worth something like a 10% discount? I don't think that's what's going on here, given the quote.
 
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Reading between the lines Max offered Watmerkin a lump sum rather than monthly increments. The lump sum was discounted because it was offered up front. I'd say the talk about court etc is OTT.

Well, the time value of money (particularly given today's interest rates) doesn't explain taking an entire year's salary equivalent off the payout. Ultimately it will depend on exactly how the option clause is written, and how much people can be bothered going to court. I'd say we'll pay Watters an amount in between the current offer and the max payout and everything will go away.
 

BoneyBlake17

Juniors
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Gee another legal battle with a player. Are we the only the club that this happens to.

Though i am interested even if watmough wasnt go to play again the fact that we rushed his retirement cause of the salary cap saga might have something to do with the angst. As technically choc could have kept trying to get back on the field for another 12 months as he still had 3 years left on his contract even if the injuries were bad enough to retire.

Amyway hope this is sorted quickly and out of the news.
 

phantom eel

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Gee another legal battle with a player. Are we the only the club that this happens to.
It sounds like a mess. Presumably Watmough was happy to be medically retired and not have to play again - so long as he got the money he signed for.

So we thought yeah, if the NRL accepts it nit beimg undrr our xap, then tge insurance would civer the payout. But no...

So Watmough finds out we aren't following through for the payout for the final year, where he had the option. Club argues Watmough is unable to take the option so it needn't be paid, Watmough just wants the max total he walked away from.

You would have thought this would have been discussed, confirmed and signed at the time?

What I din't get us how Watmough threatening to turn up for pre-season has any effect on our cap at all, if we have (or are) paying him out for 2017 (at least), and the NRL has already approved this outside the cap?
 

hybrideel

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I would assume that if he turns up for training then he becomes an active player and that years payment would come under the cap. And i'm not surprised he is doing it either given his yearly contract of around $750k or so. That's a lot of money to give up, especially for a club you have zero ties to
 

hybrideel

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It could also possibly affect next years salary cap as well as if he has no longer retired and is just an injured player, then his wage would be included in the cap with just some 2nd tier concessions for the long term injury. I'd say we have to settle with him
 

forward pass

Coach
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She was just doing a job.

Makes all of the bitching and whining about her articles seem fairly insignificant.

Just doing a job? She treated the Mannahs appallingly and tbh she rarely had anything good to say about league but praised the AFL no matter what crisis or scandal they were facing. I had no time for her at all.

Feel sorry for her family as it is a terrible loss for them. Condolences to her children. But I wont miss her articles one bit!
 

oldmancraigy

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Well, the time value of money (particularly given today's interest rates) doesn't explain taking an entire year's salary equivalent off the payout. Ultimately it will depend on exactly how the option clause is written, and how much people can be bothered going to court. I'd say we'll pay Watters an amount in between the current offer and the max payout and everything will go away.

But hasn't the club kind of got a point?

He retired, so therefore he can't take up his player option to play on.
I guess it depends on what the collective bargaining agreement says on the scenario, I'm tipping nothing...
 

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