Rumours and Stuff

[IFR33K]

When we assess both Munster and Browns games, Munster even though down on previous years, is still way ahead then Brown. Any keen judge can see that.

#notjosh

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

is the spoon for your methadone ?

Methadone is for wusses.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You’re the one that brought ‘gun juniors’ into it.

And you assume I was talking about 14 year olds? The Roosters don't care about kids that age. The only club that does is probably Parra. The Roosters don't start recruiting until kids are ready for SG Ball (currently under 19s). They have won more SG Ball comps than we have in the past 20 years, yet they have never won Harold Matthews. Meanwhile we have won it 20 times, including six in the past 20 years. We put our money into junior development, their money goes into junior recruitment. Big difference. Junior recruitment is all about paying a bunch of adults to go out and poach the best juniors from everywhere else. Can we compete with that? Full time salaries are a significant overhead, and we don't have an endless bucket of money.

 

[lingard]

Yeah I appreciate that. Many posters have said the same. Who knows where he’ll end up.

Warriors.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Sacking the coach won’t improve the roster but a decent coach might improve the players.

You don't think any of our players have improved under Arthur's?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Again it goes to show, stats don't always tell the story like Pou reckons. You need to assess those stats with your brain and what you see and what is actually happening out there on the field.

Munster may only have 5 try assists to his name this season, but how much has he contributed to each play involvement and try during the season that didn't amount to him giving the try assist in the end, but was a significant or the main reason for the quality of the movement or try in the end? Only watching the game and assessing it with your own judgement will you know that. It isn't necessarily recorded as a stat.

That's why Pou's belief that stats are king is crap and how Hasler got it so wrong when he went down the stats rabbit hole and thought that Aiden Tolman was the best prop in the game. He lost the feel of the game and started to pigeon hole everything according to stats.

When we assess both Munster and Browns games, Munster even though down on previous years, is still way ahead then Brown. Any keen judge can see that.

Munster has better stats than Drown, especially in the areas of attack and kicking. You shouldn't be surprised to see Drown has better defensive stats. That's because stats reflect what happens on the field, and unlike your memories of what happened, the stats are unbiased. Also, Munster has 10 TAs, not 5.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

and how have those results gone ?

Should we go back to him playing worse?

 

[hineyrulz]

You don't think any of our players have improved under Arthur's?

Jakob has, he’s improved into the perfect back up half.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Next year ffs

 

[hineyrulz]

Next year ffs

Stop being so negative FFS!!

 

[TheRam]

And you assume I was talking about 14 year olds? The Roosters don't care about kids that age. The only club that does is probably Parra. The Roosters don't start recruiting until kids are ready for SG Ball (currently under 19s). They have won more SG Ball comps than we have in the past 20 years, yet they have never won Harold Matthews. Meanwhile we have won it 20 times, including six in the past 20 years. We put our money into junior development, their money goes into junior recruitment. Big difference. Junior recruitment is all about paying a bunch of adults to go out and poach the best juniors from everywhere else. Can we compete with that? Full time salaries are a significant overhead, and we don't have an endless bucket of money.

We could if we decided to not develop juniors anymore. But we aren't leeches who just sponge off of the game.

The problem though is the ARLC that has never protected clubs like Parra and has rules in place that rewards the likes of the Roosters to keep doing what they do.

 

[Gronk]

Bring back the plumber so we can have more leaks FFS!!

* Spags and his mate Josh.

BTW

Spoiler

https://au.linkedin.com/in/josh-massoud-98122475

 

[TheRam]

Munster has better stats than Drown, especially in the areas of attack and kicking. You shouldn't be surprised to see Drown has better defensive stats. That's because stats reflect what happens on the field, and unlike your memories of what happened, the stats are unbiased. Also, Munster has 10 TAs, not 5.

He is still a way better player then Brown then the stats suggest. Way better.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He is still a way better player then Brown then the stats suggest. Way better.

He's not even a better defender ffs. I agree he is better, but how could he be "way better" if he is inferior in a key facet of the game?

 

[gaffer]

anyone just see waqa pass the ball with on open try line it went friggin FORWARD

 

[The Predictor]

Well look how many of their players made their NRL debuts at that club. Someone knew they would be good NRL players despite never having seen them play first grade. That someone wasn't Robinson. It was a team of recruitment and 'development' staff. Where's their equivalent at our club? That's what we're missing.

Money solves these problems, not whinging fans refusing to accept mediocrity on the internet.

You don’t get many “likes” do you

 

[IFR33K]

You don’t get many “likes” do you

He’s just desperate for attention

 

[Joshuatheeel]

He is part of the attack structure that is meant to create the opportunities ffs. It's not like our go forward wasn't giving him the space to attack for most of the season. He has been a handbrake out there at present and for most of his NRL career. Is it him and the other playmakers lack of talent or the coaching? This is what needs to be answered, before we make any rash decisions when retaining our roster.

I suspect it is more the coaching then the players, but until we make the changes needed, we really won't know.

go forward is great, but if you don’t spread it at the appropriate time the edges don’t get space.

And it’s been pretty well documented we play the power game thus don’t spread it much….

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Again it goes to show, stats don't always tell the story like Pou reckons. You need to assess those stats with your brain and what you see and what is actually happening out there on the field.

Munster may only have 5 try assists to his name this season, but how much has he contributed to each play involvement and try during the season that didn't amount to him giving the try assist in the end, but was a significant or the main reason for the quality of the movement or try in the end? Only watching the game and assessing it with your own judgement will you know that. It isn't necessarily recorded as a stat.

That's why Pou's belief that stats are king is crap and how Hasler got it so wrong when he went down the stats rabbit hole and thought that Aiden Tolman was the best prop in the game. He lost the feel of the game and started to pigeon hole everything according to stats.

When we assess both Munster and Browns games, Munster even though down on previous years, is still way ahead then Brown. Any keen judge can see that.

No one has suggested Munster isn’t a shit load better the Drown….

 

[The Predictor]

go forward is great, but if you don’t spread it at the appropriate time the edges don’t get space.

And it’s been pretty well documented we play the power game thus don’t spread it much….

We haven’t played a power game for about 3 months