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lucablight

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So you think the eels won’t ever sign any fringe players any more and get good value out of them……

what key players have we lost ? I haven’t heard anything yet ….
I don’t know. Will we end up with like for like replacements for RCG and Niukore if we lose them? It seems highly unlikely but I’d love to be wrong. We’ve already lost Fergie.
Mate I can't see how paying some of our players less than what some other club is willing to give them can be directly related to losing to Penrith.
I’m saying we wasted an opportunity despite having a competitive advantage.
What really worries me is how we are going to put a team on the field if RCG, Jnr, Reed, Papa, Guth and Marata leave. We'll just have to promote some 16 year olds or something, or BA will have to come off the bench.
You better not be complaining if we regress as a side and have nothing to show for it after next season if you’re going to hand wave away a legitimate concern.
 

TheRam

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My partner watches Yellowstone but just couldn't get into it, says it reminds her of Dallas. First episode was confusing with multiple stories but no drawing out of characters so when 1 was killed during clash with indians we didn't know if was member of family or not first up. Maybe the shoot first, ask questions later appraoch to the story line puts me off as well as the portrayal of political corruption and influence over the law, which probably does genuinely happen over there, also off putting to me. Btw I always barracked for the indians in the cowboy movies.

I don't mean this in a rude way but you sound very naïve.
 

Joshuatheeel

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I don’t know. Will we end up with like for like replacements for RCG and Niukore if we lose them? It seems highly unlikely but I’d love to be wrong. We’ve already lost Fergie.

I’m saying we wasted an opportunity despite having a competitive advantage.

You better not be complaining if we regress as a side and have nothing to show for it after next season if you’re going to hand wave away a legitimate concern.
Well RCG wasn’t going great at the panthers before signing with us and Marata was a 20’s players. So if BA did it once, I am pretty sure we can do it again!

Any while RCG is an important player, they aren’t key players especially Marata. They are both very replaceable!
 

hineyrulz

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Well RCG wasn’t going great at the panthers before signing with us and Marata was a 20’s players. So if BA did it once, I am pretty sure we can do it again!

Any while RCG is an important player, they aren’t key players especially Marata. They are both very replaceable!
RCG is very replaceable?? Really how many other front rowers are putting out his numbers on 500k per season?? He out performed Junior by quite a deal this year IMO. You can see how badly we shit the bed when he didn’t play our forward pack was monstered.
 

hindy111

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Unbelievable how racist against whites these movies and shows have become. Like no one flinches with white cracker this, white cracker that and stated in easy-peasy casual conversation and storylines that make whites the most heinous monsters of all time. When the facts are that it is through the European(whites) world and laws that we slowly emancipated ALL men from those terrible and dark times.

I mean why doesn't anyone beat up on the American Indian for capturing and then making other Indians and or European settlers their slaves? I mean slaves were always part of their society so what about them? What because they eventually lost out to the massive European settlement(invasion) they get a free pass? That should not excuse the way they thought and treated their fellow Indian brothers or fellow man should it? Can't have one standard for one group of people and another for another group who both lived side by side and at the same time ffs.

But apparently, they eventually got defeated and the world looks at them as also being the victims, which they are for obvious reasons. BUT...they still had a very bad culture of slavery, cannibalism and mass extermination of their rivals for centuries even before the Europeans came on board to eventually put a stop to their racist ways(that very last bit was just a joke of course).

But seriously the endless cultures that have been slave owners and brutal overlords is everywhere in history, including black man owning black man, but guess what, do you know who put an end to it?

The white man.

Maybe that is his problem, maybe he is to good for his own good.

The way African kings behave in their own country is terrible. People turn a blind eye to it all.
 

hindy111

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I don’t know. Will we end up with like for like replacements for RCG and Niukore if we lose them? It seems highly unlikely but I’d love to be wrong. We’ve already lost Fergie.

I’m saying we wasted an opportunity despite having a competitive advantage.

You better not be complaining if we regress as a side and have nothing to show for it after next season if you’re going to hand wave away a legitimate concern.

We will find two middles with about 750-800k free. RCG skittles defenses. But he is very one dimensional. Runs hard but with no pass or offload. People in here overate our own players. He is good but not irreplaceable. Was he much better then Danny Wicks? Sure but not out of this world better. People think his form will hold up for another 3 or 4 seasons. Last year his form was solid but not as good as this season. Did we replace KE and Manu Mau?
 

Twizzle

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RCG's issue may not be only cash, he's approaching 30 so the terms of his contract could be an issue.

He's 29 next season so for a big bopper he has what, a couple of years left ?

It's a judgement call that has been made by both parties. We bought him so we can buy another one.
 

Joshuatheeel

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RCG is very replaceable?? Really how many other front rowers are putting out his numbers on 500k per season?? He out performed Junior by quite a deal this year IMO. You can see how badly we shit the bed when he didn’t play our forward pack was monstered.
I agree he is good player and important to our side. But front rowers/RCG are very replaceable.

I wouId rather be replacing a middle forward with $500k or so to spend then trying to replace a spine player……
 

Joshuatheeel

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We will find two middles with about 750-800k free. RCG skittles defenses. But he is very one dimensional. Runs hard but with no pass or offload. People in here overate our own players. He is good but not irreplaceable. Was he much better then Danny Wicks? Sure but not out of this world better. People think his form will hold up for another 3 or 4 seasons. Last year his form was solid but not as good as this season. Did we replace KE and Manu Mau?
And potentially we already have a replacement with Grieg / Kaufusi ……
 

T.S Quint

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Unbelievable how racist against whites these movies and shows have become. Like no one flinches with white cracker this, white cracker that and stated in easy-peasy casual conversation and storylines that make whites the most heinous monsters of all time. When the facts are that it is through the European(whites) world and laws that we slowly emancipated ALL men from those terrible and dark times.

I mean why doesn't anyone beat up on the American Indian for capturing and then making other Indians and or European settlers their slaves? I mean slaves were always part of their society so what about them? What because they eventually lost out to the massive European settlement(invasion) they get a free pass? That should not excuse the way they thought and treated their fellow Indian brothers or fellow man should it? Can't have one standard for one group of people and another for another group who both lived side by side and at the same time ffs.

But apparently, they eventually got defeated and the world looks at them as also being the victims, which they are for obvious reasons. BUT...they still had a very bad culture of slavery, cannibalism and mass extermination of their rivals for centuries even before the Europeans came on board to eventually put a stop to their racist ways(that very last bit was just a joke of course).

But seriously the endless cultures that have been slave owners and brutal overlords is everywhere in history, including black man owning black man, but guess what, do you know who put an end to it?

The white man.

Maybe that is his problem, maybe he is to good for his own good.

Native American slavery pre-colonisation wasn’t exactly the same as how the Europeans practiced it.
They didn’t go and basically kidnap someone from their home, ship them across the sea and hold them in bondage.

The Native Americans would defeat another tribe in battle, then keep the survivors to replace their lost tribesmen. These slaves would live with the tribe and do pretty much what everyone else in the tribe did. Sometimes they were eventually accepted into the tribe as ‘family’.

https://www.encyclopedia.com/humani...iences-magazines/native-americans-and-slavery

And of course it was the white man who put an end to slavery. As if a black man would ever have been allowed to do something like that.
You have not mentioned the experience for the blacks (and Native Americans) post slavery. It wasn’t all hugs and kisses the day after slavery ended. They were still not seen as entirely human and were considered less than a white man.

I’m sorry you feel so oppressed as a white man who has to put up with all this ‘woke’ tv.
 

TheRam

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I reckon we would have 2.6-2.8 million spare. You don't think we will buy anyone?

The problem hindy is not that there won't be quality available, there almost always is. The problem is if we can get lucky again and get such high quality at such good prices. Sometimes you do and sometimes you don't.

Our problem was for the last couple of seasons when we had a team sort of capable enough to win it, we didn't have the X factor player and or speed, and some could argue the coaching quality that could have gotten us to go all the way.

Now we basically, if we don't lose anyone of note for 2022, have just next season to realise the dream. After that unless some extraordinary improvements and or acquisitions happen, then it will be rebuild time and who knows how that will go, especially with a new even hungrier competitor in the market place.
 

TheRam

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The way African kings behave in their own country is terrible. People turn a blind eye to it all.

Also they are still at it in some parts as far as slavery goes.



Oh btw, this is just showing males slaves, imagine what is happening to the females they can get their hands on.
 
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Gronk

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Unbelievable how racist against whites these movies and shows have become. Like no one flinches with white cracker this, white cracker that and stated in easy-peasy casual conversation and storylines that make whites the most heinous monsters of all time. When the facts are that it is through the European(whites) world and laws that we slowly emancipated ALL men from those terrible and dark times.

I mean why doesn't anyone beat up on the American Indian for capturing and then making other Indians and or European settlers their slaves? I mean slaves were always part of their society so what about them? What because they eventually lost out to the massive European settlement(invasion) they get a free pass? That should not excuse the way they thought and treated their fellow Indian brothers or fellow man should it? Can't have one standard for one group of people and another for another group who both lived side by side and at the same time ffs.

But apparently, they eventually got defeated and the world looks at them as also being the victims, which they are for obvious reasons. BUT...they still had a very bad culture of slavery, cannibalism and mass extermination of their rivals for centuries even before the Europeans came on board to eventually put a stop to their racist ways(that very last bit was just a joke of course).

But seriously the endless cultures that have been slave owners and brutal overlords is everywhere in history, including black man owning black man, but guess what, do you know who put an end to it?

The white man.

Maybe that is his problem, maybe he is to good for his own good.
A little bit revisionist (refer American Civil War), but I think ultimately we're on the same page.

Critical Race Theory is a good thing and should be taught in all schools. Not a sanitised, approved by white people version. Correct ?

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TheRam

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Native American slavery pre-colonisation wasn’t exactly the same as how the Europeans practiced it.
They didn’t go and basically kidnap someone from their home, ship them across the sea and hold them in bondage.

The Native Americans would defeat another tribe in battle, then keep the survivors to replace their lost tribesmen. These slaves would live with the tribe and do pretty much what everyone else in the tribe did. Sometimes they were eventually accepted into the tribe as ‘family’.

https://www.encyclopedia.com/humani...iences-magazines/native-americans-and-slavery

And of course it was the white man who put an end to slavery. As if a black man would ever have been allowed to do something like that.
You have not mentioned the experience for the blacks (and Native Americans) post slavery. It wasn’t all hugs and kisses the day after slavery ended. They were still not seen as entirely human and were considered less than a white man.

I’m sorry you feel so oppressed as a white man who has to put up with all this ‘woke’ tv.

Oh please, Does it matter how far a distance you are taken if the end result is the same...death or slavery? Also you don't mention who were the overwhelming majority of the people that were capturing and rounding up the Africans to be sold into slavery. Oh yeah...other Africans profiting from taking out their local competitors and rivals and Middle Eastern traders.

Many cultures over millennia have rewarded as such, for a better term, slaves with their freedom with varying degrees of acceptance and integration into their societies. Including the ancient Greeks, Romans and Americans.

As for the treatment of the Blacks and Native Americans post slavery, it was always going to take time to heal the wounds. They run deep for sure and it would be a difficult thing from both perspectives to just simply forgive and forget or change racist minds. But by constantly picking at the scab and not letting the healing to take place slowly and over a long stretch of time by constantly depicting the white man for example as a monster and referring him as such to this very day then how the hell will anyone ever get over what has been around a 150 odd years ago abolished?

The point is healing never happens if we are constantly told and reminded of what our ancestors did to us. You are just keeping the anger and resentment bubbling and festering along and the racism only continues and actually starts to grow again. As we can now see with so much reverse racism everywhere in the media, TV shows and movies, not to mention the constant unprovoked violence by African Americans on whites.

Hell I think I too would hate and be racist against whites if I were a black man in America today. Especially a poor one that is constantly being told that all my misfortune and misery in life stem directly from the Whiteman and his privilege.

I too want to be privileged. Damn those white crackers, but they do taste good with some cheese.

P.S. In many parts of America the healing had begun and people of all ethnicities were getting along and treating one another respectfully and very well, but for the resent 20 years or so constant barrage of picking at the scab the lefty liberals have been campaigning since forever really to keep America divided and the vote in their pocket.

Oh and I'm not white thank you. I identify as Misty.
 
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