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Poupou Escobar

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How embarrassing that we had two players on unders like that but still couldn’t make it past week 2 of the finals against the team that was disadvantaged by paying some of their wages.
With all those Origin players we know Penrith must have a ton of players on unders, which we already knew by their constant crowing about how much they spend on junior development.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Btw I always barracked for the indians in the cowboy movies.
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84 Baby

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RCG is very replaceable?? Really how many other front rowers are putting out his numbers on 500k per season?? He out performed Junior by quite a deal this year IMO. You can see how badly we shit the bed when he didn’t play our forward pack was monstered.
You honestly reckon he’s on $500k and/or will take less than $500,001 next contract?
I agree RCG has been great, but if the choice is between paying Rheed or paying RCG then yes RCG is more replaceable
 

84 Baby

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Oh please, Does it matter how far a distance you are taken if the end result is the same...death or slavery? Also you don't mention who were the overwhelming majority of the people that were capturing and rounding up the Africans to be sold into slavery. Oh yeah...other Africans profiting from taking out their local competitors and rivals and Middle Eastern traders.

Many cultures over millennia have rewarded as such, for a better term, slaves with their freedom with varying degrees of acceptance and integration into their societies. Including the ancient Greeks, Romans and Americans.

As for the treatment of the Blacks and Native Americans post slavery, it was always going to take time to heal the wounds. They run deep for sure and it would be a difficult thing from both perspectives to just simply forgive and forget or change racist minds. But by constantly picking at the scab and not letting the healing to take place slowly and over a long stretch of time by constantly depicting the white man for example as a monster and referring him as such to this very day then how the hell will anyone ever get over what has been around a 150 odd years ago abolished?

The point is healing never happens if we are constantly told and reminded of what our ancestors did to us. You are just keeping the anger and resentment bubbling and festering along and the racism only continues and actually starts to grow again. As we can now see with so much reverse racism everywhere in the media, TV shows and movies, not to mention the constant unprovoked violence by African Americans on whites.

Hell I think I too would hate and be racist against whites if I were a black man in America today. Especially a poor one that is constantly being told that all my misfortune and misery in life stem directly from the Whiteman and his privilege.

I too want to be privileged. Damn those white crackers, but they do taste good with some cheese.

P.S. In many parts of America the healing had begun and people of all ethnicities were getting along and treating one another respectfully and very well, but for the resent 20 years or so constant barrage of picking at the scab the lefty liberals have been campaigning since forever really to keep America divided and the vote in their pocket.

Oh and I'm not white thank you. I identify as Misty.
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hineyrulz

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You honestly reckon he’s on $500k and/or will take less than $500,001 next contract?
I agree RCG has been great, but if the choice is between paying Rheed or paying RCG then yes RCG is more replaceable
He's on probably 700k-50k, but considering the Panthers are tipping in around 200k my point was where can you find a quality front rower at that price?? We may replace him and and on similar money but it doesn't mean he will be of similar quality. Josh just thinks he is easily replaceable and it won't be a big deal and guys like Grieg or Kaufusi will be ready to step straight into his shoes which is quite doubtful.
 

Delboy

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He's on probably 700k-50k, but considering the Panthers are tipping in around 200k my point was where can you find a quality front rower at that price?? We may replace him and and on similar money but it doesn't mean he will be of similar quality. Josh just thinks he is easily replaceable and it won't be a big deal and guys like Grieg or Kaufusi will be ready to step straight into his shoes which is quite doubtful.
Is it sensible to lay out $700k for a 30 year old prop, would love to keep him but it’s tough when there is a salary cap. Probably only bottom 4 teams could afford it or contemplate doing it. The Dolphins threw a massive curve ball being admitted for 2023, will be intersting to see if Uncle Wayne will throw that sort of dosh at a prop, hasn’t in the past.
 

hineyrulz

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Is it sensible to lay out $700k for a 30 year old prop, would love to keep him but it’s tough when there is a salary cap. Probably only bottom 4 teams could afford it or contemplate doing it. The Dolphins threw a massive curve ball being admitted for 2023, will be intersting to see if Uncle Wayne will throw that sort of dosh at a prop, hasn’t in the past.
Where did I say any of that?? All I said was I doubt RCG is as easy to replace as people were making out. And saying the likes of Kaufusi or Greig is quite laughable.

Kaufusi is a good young prop and probably will become a very good first grader and Greig has played what barely 20 mins of first grade. Like I said laughable.
 

Joshuatheeel

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He's on probably 700k-50k, but considering the Panthers are tipping in around 200k my point was where can you find a quality front rower at that price?? We may replace him and and on similar money but it doesn't mean he will be of similar quality. Josh just thinks he is easily replaceable and it won't be a big deal and guys like Grieg or Kaufusi will be ready to step straight into his shoes which is quite doubtful.
Never said it was easy!! Maybe read my post!!

I think I said Grieg/Kaufusi have potential….go back and check…

Anyhow regarding Kaufusi, only a fool wouIdn’t think he is going to be a better player after 2 more NRL off-seasons and another 20 or so NRL games….based on his current form, there’s probably a pretty good chance he is good enough to start in 2023 and be a fair replacement for RCG……
 

Joshuatheeel

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Purely assumptions

Less say RCG is on $600k for 2023 / 24

and we have a $300k offer for Marata for 23/24

plus $425k for papa

plus $650k Paulo

That’s nearly $2 million

pretty sure with that cash we could some how sign 4 decent middles for 2023 (either them staying or new players).

interestingly those complaining about not keeping RCG also want to offer Papa top 13 money…
 

hineyrulz

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Never said it was easy!! Maybe read my post!!

I think I said Grieg/Kaufusi have potential….go back and check…

Anyhow regarding Kaufusi, only a fool wouIdn’t think he is going to be a better player after 2 more NRL off-seasons and another 20 or so NRL games….based on his current form, there’s probably a pretty good chance he is good enough to start in 2023 and be a fair replacement for RCG……
You said RCG was easily replaceable lol. Now you say I never said it was easy maybe you need to go back and read what you wrote lol.



And where did I say Kaufusi isn’t going to improve, but to say he will get to RCG’s level??? Laughable IMO, especially with his worrying trend of head knocks.
 

hineyrulz

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Purely assumptions

Less say RCG is on $600k for 2023 / 24

and we have a $300k offer for Marata for 23/24

plus $425k for papa

plus $650k Paulo

That’s nearly $2 million

pretty sure with that cash we could some how sign 4 decent middles for 2023 (either them staying or new players).

interestingly those complaining about not keeping RCG also want to offer Papa top 13 money…

So Papa isn’t worth top 13 money???
 

84 Baby

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He's on probably 700k-50k, but considering the Panthers are tipping in around 200k my point was where can you find a quality front rower at that price?? We may replace him and and on similar money but it doesn't mean he will be of similar quality. Josh just thinks he is easily replaceable and it won't be a big deal and guys like Grieg or Kaufusi will be ready to step straight into his shoes which is quite doubtful.
My bad, I assumed you were just having a typical dig at our recruitment. 100% agree replacing RCGs output at $500k would be nigh impossible. And even fractional replacement would be difficult within fractional value
 

Joshuatheeel

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You said RCG was easily replaceable lol. Now you say I never said it was easy maybe you need to go back and read what you wrote lol.



And where did I say Kaufusi isn’t going to improve, but to say he will get to RCG’s level??? Laughable IMO, especially with his worrying trend of head knocks.
Very interesting:

Josh just thinks he is easily replaceable and it won't be a big deal and guys like Grieg or Kaufusi will be ready to step straight into his shoes which is quite doubtful.
Here, nothing mentioned about it being easy….just RCG is very replaceable….

I agree he is good player and important to our side. But front rowers/RCG are very replaceable.

I wouId rather be replacing a middle forward with $500k or so to spend then trying to replace a spine player……
Any while RCG is an important player, they aren’t key players especially Marata. They are both very replaceable!
 

hineyrulz

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Very interesting:


Here, nothing mentioned about it being easy….just RCG is very replaceable….
Very replaceable, sounds like you think replacing him is no big deal huh??


And then you mentioned Greig as one of them a bloke who has played about 40 mins of first grade.
 

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