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Chipmunk

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We dodged a bullet if we offered something with a 5 to be honest.

He's a decent player in a good team, he'll be a shit player in a shit team, just like he was before he played in a good team.

As for Niukore, as Kerry Packer said, you only get one Alan Bond come along once in your lifetime.

Next.
 

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
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Appears we came back late in the piece when we realised that a genuine offer had been made. Tha can happen when you try and manage the cap by lowballing extensions. Didn’t work on Stefano and caused probs with Gutho last time.

Seems we didn’t learn much, if you at least put in a decent contract imtitially you would possibly be more successful and not look silly when forced to get close and fail.
We didn't get close, and why would we? The Tigers offer was ridiculous.
 
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Poupou Escobar

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If we were prepared to offer him that money in the end why didnt we just do it in the first place he probably would have signed straight away without even looking at the market and giving a desperate club like the tigers a chance to pounce with an offer way over our budget that we planned for.
And what if we gave our best offer to every off contract player? We would only be able to fit half of them under the cap and have a worse team than if we'd only lost a couple.
 
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Poupou Escobar

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Yes a week 2 finals side with not many super stars shouldn’t be losing players.
A side with not many super stars should have a lot of above average players. These are the merkins likely to see an extra $100k a year as a a good deal. The guy on $1.2M will find it easier to knock back that extra $100k than the dude on $500k. Use your Brian ffs
 

Poupou Escobar

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If Ice left us over $150k over 3 years then he’s a dunce. To choose $50k a year over your team mates, playing finals footy and under a coach you know you gel with is a stupid risk.

only play the tigers have is Madge being the NZ coach. Maybe he promised him a starting gig in the test team..
If Papali'i was worth big money surely he also deserves a spot in the Kiwi side on merit?
 

lucablight

First Grade
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A side with not many super stars should have a lot of above average players. These are the merkins likely to see an extra $100k a year as a a good deal. The guy on $1.2M will find it easier to knock back that extra $100k than the dude on $500k. Use your Brian ffs
A side with not many super stars should have a lot of above average players? I’m not sure how that follows. Most teams have to shed players because they have strong origin representation or grand final experience. Can you name another team that has had to shed their star players despite not making it past week 2 of the finals?
 

eels_fan

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I’m pissed the clubs put itself in the situation now that the 3 remaining High profile players to re-sign are under the one manager.

You just know Ayoub bumped all their asking prices today knowing we lost Papa. He’ll know we are desperate to lock them away and no lose anyone else, and will know we now have more $$
 

Poupou Escobar

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A side with not many super stars should have a lot of above average players? I’m not sure how that follows.
Because we have no superstars we have more cap space to devote to the rest of the top 17. Look at some of the reserve graders playing for Manly and the Roosters. Our tenth best player (for example) would be much better than theirs.
Most teams have to shed players because they have strong origin representation or grand final experience.
The two blokes we lost weren't eligible for Origin. They also came to us as nobodies so they would've needed the biggest upgrade for 2023.
Can you name another team that has had to shed their star players despite not making it past week 2 of the finals?
Don't look at it by how far into the finals you went in a given year, because luck is a big factor with such a small sample of games. Look at the three year rolling win rate for the actual quality of a team. We are top five in the NRL, better than 11 other clubs. You better believe we have a good team.

This whole can't-make-it-past-week-two thing is a dumb narrative. Of course if you can get to week two you can get past week two. If you toss a coin twice and it comes up heads both times do you say it can only ever show heads?
 
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If Ice left us over $150k over 3 years then he’s a dunce. To choose $50k a year over your team mates, playing finals footy and under a coach you know you gel with is a stupid risk.

only play the tigers have is Madge being the NZ coach. Maybe he promised him a starting gig in the test team..
He might be driving a new car
 

hineyrulz

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Yes a week 2 finals side with not many super stars shouldn’t be losing players. We’re either an underachieving week 3 or grand final team that can’t retain our star players or we’re a week 2 finals side that shouldn’t have any trouble. You can’t have it both ways.
Pou can, he loves walking down both sides of the street.


So he went to the Tigers for less than 50k a season???? Maybe he's another forward sick of chasing the collision???? Doesn't say much for us extending the Stupor Coach does it???
 

Avenger

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If this is correct, reckon we made a pretty good offer to keep him:

Obviously he has no loyalty. I actually don’t want any players like him at the club. We made a very good offer, which is more than fair yet he left for allegedly $150k more over 3 years. What’s that after tax? About $80k?

Hope your ice melts you ungrateful merkin.
 
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