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hineyrulz

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So you’re ok with Jrthur getting the magic round game but believe that off the back of that Rankin thought he was zero chance of playing so decided to not go into bubble?
Again I ask, do we need a player unwilling to fight for a spot in our squad?
I’ve got no qualms about Rankins choice but you lot making him out as the messiah when fans everywhere else call him Jordan Rancid need some perspective. Jrthur may prove to be no better, or even worse, than Rankin, but last season neither of them were ever going to be the tipping point on 2nd week/3rd week and certainly not premiership
Rankin was the main player maker in reserve grade in the games I saw, JA made his kicks and his tackles and ran when he saw an opportunity. While Moses was there with him playing the back up role like he was in reserve grade I was fine with.

My problem was when he was given the keys to the team when he hadn’t even showed in reserve grade he could do it all the while we had Dylan Brown with 40 odd games under his belt and a few as main play maker last year. It was a shit call and reeked of nepotism, Rankin knew he was no hope so decided to stay home and who can blame him for that???
 

Rocket man

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Rankin was the main player maker in reserve grade in the games I saw, JA made his kicks and his tackles and ran when he saw an opportunity. While Moses was there with him playing the back up role like he was in reserve grade I was fine with.

My problem was when he was given the keys to the team when he hadn’t even showed in reserve grade he could do it all the while we had Dylan Brown with 40 odd games under his belt and a few as main play maker last year. It was a shit call and reeked of nepotism, Rankin knew he was no hope so decided to stay home and who can blame him for that???
I think you should delve a bit deeper.
I believe Jordan Rankin said he was required to do quarantine in England then again when he returned to Aus and his family/ kids did not cope and he was not going to prioritise footy over his family well being!
 

84 Baby

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Rankin was the main player maker in reserve grade in the games I saw, JA made his kicks and his tackles and ran when he saw an opportunity. While Moses was there with him playing the back up role like he was in reserve grade I was fine with.

My problem was when he was given the keys to the team when he hadn’t even showed in reserve grade he could do it all the while we had Dylan Brown with 40 odd games under his belt and a few as main play maker last year. It was a shit call and reeked of nepotism, Rankin knew he was no hope so decided to stay home and who can blame him for that???
I agree he shouldn’t have played that extended second stint, but just because he was wearing 7 doesn’t mean he was “given keys to team”. In those 3 games, Drown had more touches, except the Canbra game. Did BA just give him the keys for that one game?

I can’t blame Rankin for not wanting to put his family into bubble of that was his reason. But if his reason was because he didn’t think he’d be able to push his way into team, then that reasoning, more than nepotism, was why he didn’t get a game.
 

84 Baby

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And deadset this is like arguing over who should be in team, Sandow or Luke Kelly. Neither Rankin or Jrthur are anywhere near 1st grade starters, but at least the one who got games has time on his side to improve.
 

T-Boon

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And deadset this is like arguing over who should be in team, Sandow or Luke Kelly. Neither Rankin or Jrthur are anywhere near 1st grade starters, but at least the one who got games has time on his side to improve.

Well you are missing the whole point. It would only be like that first sentence if one of Sandow or Kelly got in the team because his dad was the coach. I seriously doubt JA would have even been in reserve grade except that his dad was the coach. I also doubt JA would have gotten a contract ahead of Will Smith for 2022 but for his dad being the coach.
That is why we see jokes about JA (which are really about his dad) on this forum.
 

84 Baby

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Well you are missing the whole point. It would only be like that first sentence if one of Sandow or Kelly got in the team because his dad was the coach. I seriously doubt JA would have even been in reserve grade except that his dad was the coach. I also doubt JA would have gotten a contract ahead of Will Smith for 2022 but for his dad being the coach.
That is why we see jokes about JA (which are really about his dad) on this forum.
You can make jokes about them. But firstly you’re off your face if you think he isn’t even reserve grade standard, secondly Jrthur and Smith were both under contract in 2021 so please tell me how one affects the other, and thirdly having Jrthur in the squad with his dad coach potentially means either or both are costing less than otherwise, might not be as successful as the Chin duo but a dollar saved is a dollar more we can spend elsewhere.
 

Poupou Escobar

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By the time the game moved to Qld Rankin knew to pretty much certainty he was not getting a look in regardless of what happened or what he did.
I'd say Rankin and Arthur were comparable players. In that case when choosing between the two why not take the added advantage of getting some development time into the youngster?
 

Poupou Escobar

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I seriously doubt JA would have even been in reserve grade except that his dad was the coach.
I thought so too until I saw Arthur's performance in reserve grade. He was well ready for it, and he performed better than I expected in first grade as well. But you can't blame backups for not performing to the same standard as the players they replace. It's why they're backups ffs. Jordan Rankin would probably have shat himself in first grade, which is why no NRL club has given him a run since 2017.
 
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That seems unlikely. (He was easy to recognise in his parra footy shorts though)

Even the African refugees won’t wear surplus Western Tigeria footy shorts and our annual mountain of unsold gear is shipped around the world with no country willing to accept them.

The stockpile grows as the United Nations watches on in horror. Each year a second is added to the doomsday clock on account of this inexplicable natural phenomena.

I would have hassled Bea about that last pass on the line in the finals and whose bright idea that was.

Scrumpet had the entire Penrith squad and their legions of trainers right in front of him and he looked frightened.

So the ball is passed straight to him!
 
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T-Boon

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I thought so too until I saw Arthur's performance in reserve grade. He was well ready for it, and he performed better than I expected in first grade as well.

The first I saw of JA was that trial game which was a mix of grades and he appeared to me to be about under 19s level. He was bad. Did you see that game? Not good enough at all.

I saw him in 2 other reserve grade games pretty early on in the season and I would describe him as ordinary.

He seems slow.
 

T-Boon

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You can make jokes about them. But firstly you’re off your face if you think he isn’t even reserve grade standard,

I think a lot of players are about reserve grade standard and they don't ever get an opportunity to play reserve grade. It is a very wide standard. He should have spent the start of the year in 3rd grade (whatever that is) and played his way into seconds.
 

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