Rumours and Stuff

[Cloeel]

Look were not travelling poorly but we aren't travelling great either.

3 weeks ago i said we should be 7-1 leading into tonights game with a tough month ahead.

We dropped 2 games we should not have dropped. I suppose you could excuse last week a bit more if we hadn't botched the tigers game. If we were 6-2 things would feel better.

5-3 though leading into Penrith game potentially go to 5-4 and back in the middle of pack of teams isnt going great when we should be up with the 2 big guns.

7-1 would be overachieving.

5-3 accurately depicts where we are currently as a club and team.

 

[hineyrulz]

Not necessarily happy about it. More accepting that we are not a top tier team. Hard to demand better results when the team is probably not capable.

Not a top tier team?? Seriously?? If a coach in his 9th year isn’t capable of making us a top tier team surely questions have to be asked??? Rash decisions and all, the decision to extend him for two more years was as rash AF.

 

[hineyrulz]

7-1 would be overachieving.

5-3 accurately depicts where we are currently as a club and team.

Average to poor, right where you find acceptable. The standards of this coach and club are embarrassing. Any wonder we haven’t won a thing in 36 years.

 

[TheRam]

Bones on Bones will never be the same again!

Are you a fat hairy merkin?

Slot available.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Only 2 sides are travelling well….14 others at varying levels…the comp is wide opened…..

Panthers cruising like most premiers do before they hit a “brick wall” and struggle a bit…

 

[Cloeel]

Not a top tier team?? Seriously?? If a coach in his 9th year isn’t capable of making us a top tier team surely questions have to be asked??? Rash decisions and all, the decision to extend him for two more years was as rash AF.

Coach is 1 of many components that produce a higher percentage of success (Premierships)

He probably doesn't (he should not) have enough impact on the club as a whole to be the sole reason for our lack of success. But he is the easiest to sack for short term appeasement of irrational fans.

Do you think we should do the same thing we have been doing for 36 years? sack coaches?

 

[Cloeel]

Average to poor, right where you find acceptable. The standards of this coach and club are embarrassing. Any wonder we haven’t won a thing in 36 years.

So keep the ritual of sacking coaches? That is you solution?

Or develop from the ground up solutions for sustainable long term success?

 

[Noise]

So keep the ritual of sacking coaches? That is you solution?

Or develop from the ground up solutions for sustainable long term success?

Ritual? We haven't sacked a coach for over a decade. Stuart quit.

How long do you keep a coach that reaches a plateau without success?

 

[Cloeel]

Ritual? We haven't sacked a coach for over a decade. Stuart quit.

How long do you keep a coach that reaches a plateau without success?

How many coaches have we sacked across 36 years?

 

[hineyrulz]

Coach is 1 of many components that produce a higher percentage of success (Premierships)

He probably doesn't (he should not) have enough impact on the club as a whole to be the sole reason for our lack of success. But he is the easiest to sack for short term appeasement of irrational fans.

Do you think we should do the same thing we have been doing for 36 years? sack coaches?

Lol he’s been here for 9 seasons, how f**king long does he need??? And sack coaches like we have always done?? Ricky left us, Kearney left because his position was untenable. Ando was sacked and it was the wrong call, Hagan left because he couldn’t handle it and Smith never had his contract renewed after 11 seasons. How many of them were actually sacked?? It’s not all on the coach but if you think we are a well coached side I’ve got the harbour bridge to sell to you.

So keep the ritual of sacking coaches? That is you solution?

Or develop from the ground up solutions for sustainable long term success?

again ritual of sacking coaches????

Ando is the only coached we have sacked since 1996. Fake news. We didn’t even sack Arthur after a spoon FFS!!

Any reason for you to keep the status quo. If we didn’t rashly extend Bea last year we wouldn’t have to sack anyone when we have our predictable end of season fade out.

 

[hineyrulz]

How many coaches have we sacked across 36 years?

1 since Hilditch, if you had your way he’d still be here. And we’d just need some more time and not make a rash decision.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Thats not the question. I asked if we are actually travelling poorly merkin.

All things considered

We’re travelling poorly if you think we should be automatically beating 12 other teams.

 

[84 Baby]

Bring back Ron Hilditch!

 

[Cloeel]

Lol he’s been here for 9 seasons, how f**king long does he need??? And sack coaches like we have always done?? Ricky left us, Kearney left because his position was untenable. Ando was sacked and it was the wrong call, Hagan left because he couldn’t handle it and Smith never had his contract renewed after 11 seasons. How many of them were actually sacked?? It’s not all on the coach but if you think we are a well coached side I’ve got the harbour bridge to sell to you.

again ritual of sacking coaches????

Ando is the only coached we have sacked since 1996. Fake news. We didn’t even sack Arthur after a spoon FFS!!

Any reason for you to keep the status quo. If we didn’t rashly extend Bea last year we wouldn’t have to sack anyone when we have our predictable end of season fade out.

Its not about maintaining the status quo.

It's about understanding a team sports success is based on more factors then how good a f**king coach is.

How do you know they were not sacked or pushed out? Yes I am wrong about saying they were explicity sacked but you have no proof (just like myself) that they were not - unless of course you worked for club club at the time - which makes sense because they were f**kin incompetent

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We were a team predicted to finish well inside the top 4

No. Well inside the top eight (4th-5th) is not well inside the top four. We are challenging for a top four spot but there's no foregone conclusions. Look at Easts, Manly and Souths. Recent premiership winners Cronulla and the Cowboys have emerged from their rebuild as well. After the two horse race at the top there's a few contenders fighting for those final two top four spots. It's very exciting.

 

[hineyrulz]

Its not about maintaining the status quo.

It's about understanding a team sports success is based on more factors then how good a f**king coach is.

How do you know they were not sacked or pushed out? Yes I am wrong about saying they were explicity sacked but you have no proof (just like myself) that they were not - unless of course you worked for club club at the time - which makes sense because they were f**kin incompetent

Lol so you admit you were wrong but you have no proof of anything. Like we need proof to know you are wrong constantly , now you are getting upset and personal lol.

And as for understanding a team sport lol, this is a coach in his 9th season who still can’t pick or rotate a bench. Our attack has been pretty horrible in all his time here and we’ve had the same problem in our edge defence for years which he is unable to fix. How much more proof do you need??? How much longer are you willing to wait??? Our window is shutting in our faces and all you can say “ Durrrrrhhhhhhh Oh shucks we aren’t up there with the top sides there is nothing we can do”

“Durrrrhhh don’t wanna make any rash decisions, give him another 4 or 5 years just to make sure and then we might do something”

 

[hineyrulz]

No. Well inside the top eight (4th-5th) is not well inside the top four. We are challenging for a top four spot but there's no foregone conclusions. Look at Easts, Manly and Souths. Recent premiership winners Cronulla and the Cowboys have emerged from their rebuild as well. After the two horse race at the top there's a few contenders fighting for those final two top four spots. It's very exciting.

Yeah very exciting

 

[Obscene Assassin]

How are we traveling poorly? We have not lost more than 1 x game in a row all season?

Does traveling poorly equate to losing 1 x game in a row?

What is your definition of traveling poorly?

Anything less than a 110% win rate. 6 converted tries per match, 1 penalty goal against per match

 

[84 Baby]

How long do you keep a coach that reaches a plateau without success?

For as long as there isn’t an alternative that will lower that plateau.
We supposedly may or may not have approached Skeletor so that perhaps is the bar. Any coach below Skeletor on hindy’s Coaching Power Rankings is probably zero chance because they aren’t likely to be better than BA enough to outweigh the risk that they aren’t better.

 

[84 Baby]

Its not about maintaining the status quo.