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hindy111

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Gus made some shit decisions at Penrith. Most being these long term contracts to guys who where not worth it.
So we can credit him for the whole junior system if we wish. Maybe it had a lot to do with him but perhaps it was just a cycle and would ofnhappened anyways. We do not know.
But reality is he had some hits and some misses. Similar to BA and our coaching staff with recruits.
What he does at the Dogs will be interesting but he comes at a good time with lots of cash in the cap to spend up. And already secured Burton.
The issue will come if Mahoney and Kikau do not kick on as expected.
TPJ so far is looking liken average signing considering the 800k tag.
 

hindy111

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For those who want to bag Ricky he come at a hard time. You had guys above him interfering and a woefully roster.
Was it not Ricky who blooded Semi,Manu and KE? Do we credit him for those?

Easy to dish on Ricky but he unearthed some talent and culled a heap of dead wood. Cleared the path for BA
 

Avenger

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For those who want to bag Ricky he come at a hard time. You had guys above him interfering and a woefully roster.
Was it not Ricky who blooded Semi,Manu and KE? Do we credit him for those?

Easy to dish on Ricky but he unearthed some talent and culled a heap of dead wood. Cleared the path for BA
I never said he can't coach, I just said he was a narcissistic merkin.
 

Gronk

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For those who want to bag Ricky he come at a hard time. You had guys above him interfering and a woefully roster.
Was it not Ricky who blooded Semi,Manu and KE? Do we credit him for those?

Easy to dish on Ricky but he unearthed some talent and culled a heap of dead wood. Cleared the path for BA
Semi played NYC for the eels in 2012. So no.


The Eels had been trying to get Manu into Australia before Ricky and finally was given the nod mid 2013. So no.


Kenny Edwards, yes.

 

Joshuatheeel

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For those who want to bag Ricky he come at a hard time. You had guys above him interfering and a woefully roster.
Was it not Ricky who blooded Semi,Manu and KE? Do we credit him for those?

Easy to dish on Ricky but he unearthed some talent and culled a heap of dead wood. Cleared the path for BA
Kearney recruited Semi and Manu…Edwards by Stuart
 

Gazzamatta

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Gus made some shit decisions at Penrith. Most being these long term contracts to guys who where not worth it.
So we can credit him for the whole junior system if we wish. Maybe it had a lot to do with him but perhaps it was just a cycle and would ofnhappened anyways. We do not know.
But reality is he had some hits and some misses. Similar to BA and our coaching staff with recruits.
What he does at the Dogs will be interesting but he comes at a good time with lots of cash in the cap to spend up. And already secured Burton.
The issue will come if Mahoney and Kikau do not kick on as expected.
TPJ so far is looking liken average signing considering the 800k tag.
Ive never been a fan of Kikau. I felt he was a good x factor with little else. That said his game last Friday night was amazing. I was very impressed with his D. Can he continue that at The Dogs? Will be interesting.
 

TheRam

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Look at the difference between our number 1 and captain and the Storm's Number 1.

If only we had such forward thinking and loyal leaders at our club to drive the re-signing and retention culture of our club for the players that are in their prime and most in demand.

Moses doesn't need to extract every last cent out of our club. He is well and truly on his way to being a multi millionaire already and I'm sure he will also have a media career after footy if he wants it to continue earning well after his retirement. So it is very disappointing that this time he has chosen to go to market where teams like the Dogs or Dolphins who are way desperate can offer him way more. Maybe seeing what Gutho did last time gave him the feeling that the 'every man for himself' attitude was ok at our club and he is silly by not doing the same.

Anyway our whole spine has or will be going to market this time around. Juxtapose that to the Storm who I think only Munster is(Mel are offering him significantly less) out of Paps, Hughes and Grant, has taken that option and all are more accomplished and Premiership winners compared to ours. A little loyalty goes a long way if quality sticks together and enough money will be there for all to be doing very well in the end. But the captain I feel has set the tone and it isn't a good one for the long term success of our club.

 

Rocket man

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Ive never been a fan of Kikau. I felt he was a good x factor with little else. That said his game last Friday night was amazing. I was very impressed with his D. Can he continue that at The Dogs? Will be interesting.
His overall game has improved the last couple of years.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Like any team, we can't afford to lose a spine player for the finals. It happened last year with Reed and we saw how that turned out.
We lost two dummy halves last year. That's what killed us. You'd have to assume Lussick would've gone better than Stone in that final game, but then our defence wouldn't have been as good and we might not have even been close enough that a couple of errors at dummy half would've made any difference.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Gus kept interfering with Cleary and the roster, giving players away that Cleary wanted, Koroisau being the prime example, being offered to Manly when Cleary stated he wanted him. Again when Cleary resigned by Panthers Gus interferred and only after he was sacked was Cleary given free air and the results dramatically improved.

As far a W-T go their roster was extremely poor and Cleary tried to improve it with overpaid players which was a poor option, and their roster is still poor but improving.

Gus likes blowing his horn and who improved their juniors is open to speculation. Was it him only, which he would like everyone to believe, or a combination of the coach, their assistants and Gus? Who knows? Now you know the real reasons tell me Cleary is a poor coach you merkin.
Everything you've said is speculation. I've shown you the facts, and the facts are that Cleary did f**k all in his first stint at Penrith (one finals win in four years) and even less at the Tigers. In that case why bring him back unless it was a condition of their star halfback re-signing?
 

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