Rumours and Stuff

[strider]

What is interesting is that we were told ad nauseum on here that it was imperative for BA to be locked in late last year to provide certainty for the playing group in recruitment negotiations. However, since BA was extended in October we’ve lost pretty much every top 17 player off contract including niukore, Paps, Mahoney, Stone, and Kaufusi, with the exception of Drown who took up his player option off a pretty ordinary 2021. Furthermore, Matto is looking doubtful beyond this season.

You look at the coaches that these players would be playing under at the time of their signing (with the exception of Stone) and it highlights that the coach isnt the magic silver bullet in contract negotiations we were led to believe and I hope the club learns from this going forward.

i get your point - agree I think its shit it didn't work in our favour with papa (and mahoney, marata) ..... but its not quite pretty much every .... gutho, rcg, junior

 

[eels_fan]

it highlights that the coach isnt the magic silver bullet in contract negotiations

I think it highlights that we have Set values on players which we won’t move on in our pursuit of not getting in bad cap shape again.

Niukore wanted to return to NZ.
Ice got offered ridiculous money and the tigers will likely regret the decision this time next year (as will Ice)
Ditto for Mahoney
Stone - take him or leave him.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I hope we get to see a good amount of footy of these guys playing together cause they're a special bunch.

Are they really? Only one current Origin player out of the bunch. Would be good if they could win us a finals match too ffs

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What is interesting is that we were told ad nauseum on here that it was imperative for BA to be locked in late last year to provide certainty for the playing group in recruitment negotiations. However, since BA was extended in October we’ve lost pretty much every top 17 player off contract including niukore, Paps, Mahoney, Stone, and Kaufusi, with the exception of Drown who took up his player option off a pretty ordinary 2021. Furthermore, Matto is looking doubtful beyond this season.

You look at the coaches that these players would be playing under at the time of their signing (with the exception of Stone) and it highlights that the coach isnt the magic silver bullet in contract negotiations we were led to believe. In fact I think it is a very minor consideration. I hope the club learns from this going forward.

Nobody said the coach was the silver bullet for recruitment (look at the Dolphins) but it would certainly be a factor. Why would want to sign for a club that hasn't even decided on a coach yet? It's not a good look.

 

[Black Panther]

So when will we win a premiership?

People have been asking that question since 1986 finished..

 

[Pazza]

Are they really? Only one current Origin player out of the bunch. Would be good if they could win us a finals match too ffs

3 on the cusp of Origin and 2 that don't qualify but will be in the NZ side.

Surely you can see the talent?

 

[Happy MEel]

i get your point - agree I think its shit it didn't work in our favour with papa (and mahoney, marata) ..... but its not quite pretty much every .... gutho, rcg, junior

My point is that the coach plays a very minor part in recruitment and retention imo. The three players you mentioned that stayed are all on very good coin.

 

[Happy MEel]

Nobody said the coach was the silver bullet for recruitment (look at the Dolphins) but it would certainly be a factor. Why would want to sign for a club that hasn't even decided on a coach yet? It's not a good look.

There’s no certainty that coaches see out their contract, particularly at shit clubs (Bulldogs case in point). I don’t think that issue plays a very big part in negotiations.

 

[Happy MEel]

I think it highlights that we have Set values on players which we won’t move on in our pursuit of not getting in bad cap shape again.

Niukore wanted to return to NZ.
Ice got offered ridiculous money and the tigers will likely regret the decision this time next year (as will Ice)
Ditto for Mahoney
Stone - take him or leave him.

That’s fair but not particularly relevant to my point.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

3 on the cusp of Origin and 2 that don't qualify but will be in the NZ side.

Surely you can see the talent?

I think it’s a good attacking pack but there are much better defensive units in the game. I’d rather be like Penrith or the Chooks, with a lightweight pack that defends well and outside backs to provide the go forward. It suits the post-2019 ruck better.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

There’s no certainty that coaches see out their contract, particularly at shit clubs (Bulldogs case in point). I don’t think that issue plays a very big part in negotiations.

Well that’s the point. Coaches change regularly at shit clubs. The uncertainty is a feature of those clubs. As for the players leaving, only Stone is going to a club with a great coach, meaning the others must be motivated primarily by money. Are they the merkins you want when constrained by a salary cap? There’s no benefit.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

My point is that the coach plays a very minor part in recruitment and retention imo. The three players you mentioned that stayed are all on very good coin.

All three have proven their quality over multiple years. They were our three best players in the Panthers final as well.

 

[Happy MEel]

Well that’s the point. Coaches change regularly at shit clubs. The uncertainty is a feature of those clubs. As for the players leaving, only Stone is going to a club with a great coach, meaning the others must be motivated primarily by money. Are they the merkins you want when constrained by a salary cap? There’s no benefit.

Well I’d argue that highlights they’re all motivated primarily by money, which was my point.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I’d say players signing or re-signing with Parramatta in 2022 aren’t necessarily motivated by money. Players signing with clubs that haven’t made the finals in years are a near certainty to be motivated entirely by money. The exception is Kiwis going to the Warriors.

 

[Avenger]

I’d say players signing or re-signing with Parramatta in 2022 aren’t necessarily motivated by money. Players signing with clubs that haven’t made the finals in years are a near certainty to be motivated entirely by money. The exception is Kiwis going to the Warriors.

Players need to be careful because Addo-Carr's move has proven fatal to his rep career.

Fittler’s big call: Wighton wins starting centre spot over Crichton

Brad Fittler has kept the selection shocks coming, naming Jack Wighton to start with Stephen Crichton moving to the bench.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Happy MEel]

I’d say players signing or re-signing with Parramatta in 2022 aren’t necessarily motivated by money. Players signing with clubs that haven’t made the finals in years are a near certainty to be motivated entirely by money. The exception is Kiwis going to the Warriors.

We’ll have to agree to disagree on that.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I disagree.

 

[Happy MEel]

I disagree.

So you agree with me.

 

[eels_fan]

Gotta love how the NRL looks after Penrith by giving them a home game against the worst team in the comp in their one origin-effected round….

 

[gaffer]

how good is dylan Brown speed can step off left and right and non of that hoppity hop skippity skip shite Our retention team would be wise to extend him NOW