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[Twizzle]

 

[JokerEel]

The post to which you responded made no mention of Cartwright nor did it reference "Rewarding blokes who put themselves above the team"....you are easily the best deflector I have ever seen.

This is why I think everyone else may be a parra fan with a differing opinion but you may just be a bloke perpetually tilting at internet windmills....

Dude.... Defending his selection would incorporate other players in the team that could fill the bench spot instead of JA... Hance Cartwright..

 

[Incorrect]

Just a question for all the apologists on this site: In your normal life, where people know your actual name and can see you, have you ever told anyone how good JA is or that you think he should be picked in the team?

I only ask because I live and work in the Parramatta area and am heavily involved in junior football and in all my conversations with people about football there has been no one who thinks JA is a first grader or deserves to be picked in the team. It seems a universal view in real life and it seems to be that people only defend JA's selection on the internet.

So I was curious if the likes of Pou, Gronk, JokerEel, Twizzle, Strider or Cloeel actually defend JA's selection or status as a first grader in real life?

A few old colleagues from Fairfax who still work there tell me there's a weird Merkin at Nine with photos of Jake Arthur all over his desk and is on the wallpaper on his laptop.... I assume that's @strider

 

[JokerEel]

Thank you for answering so honestly - curious that you yourself don't publicly advocate for his selection in first grade.

I dont blame JA for a loss, I blame his father for jeopardising the team's chances by picking a kid who is clearly and unquestionably not ready for first grade - and, it seems, alienating parts of the squad.

Why would I? I don't pick the team.. Plus who is going to care or listen to what side I would pick....

Like I said I don't wet the bed I have supported this team with some pretty shitty players in the team and still supported them. I just get on with life.

Another question why do you not criticize other player in the squad as much as you and the other bed wetters do in JA?

 

[Legal Eel]

Dude.... Defending his selection would incorporate other players in the team that could fill the bench spot instead of JA... Hance Cartwright..

I actually wouldn't prefer cartwright.

I would prefer Hayze Perham as the utility.

I also think that if Hands or Yates had been given remotely the same opportunities as Jake Arthur, they would be obvious choices as utilities.

Its why I blame his dad and not him.

 

[Legal Eel]

Why would I? I don't pick the team.. Plus who is going to care or listen to what side I would pick....

Like I said I don't wet the bed I have supported this team with some pretty shitty players in the team and still supported them. I just get on with life.

Another question why do you not criticize other player in the squad as much as you and the other bed wetters do in JA?

Other players have varying quality in their performances, but I believe they are up to first grade standard.

jake is clearly not.

In addition, it is obvious to me that Jake's continued selection (despite his obvious lack of requisite quality at this point in his career) is a coaching mistake that has destabilised the team and has a clear and distinct impact on team performance (reference the Commbank Stadium stat)

 

[JokerEel]

I actually wouldn't prefer cartwright.

I would prefer Hayze Perham as the utility.

I also think that if Hands or Yates had been given remotely the same opportunities as Jake Arthur, they would be obvious choices as utilities.

Its why I blame his dad and not him.

Yates has been in and out of Cup. Isnt that the Cup coaches fault?

 

[JokerEel]

Other players have varying quality in their performances, but I believe they are up to first grade standard.

jake is clearly not.

In addition, it is obvious to me that Jake's continued selection (despite his obvious lack of requisite quality at this point in his career) is a coaching mistake that has destabilised the team and has a clear and distinct impact on team performance (reference the Commbank Stadium stat)

Why not?

 

[Legal Eel]

Yates has been in and out of Cup. Isnt that the Cup coaches fault?

Yeah, he would probably be my third choice - still in front of Jake.

 

[Gronk]

I actually wouldn't prefer cartwright.

I would prefer Hayze Perham as the utility.

I also think that if Hands or Yates had been given remotely the same opportunities as Jake Arthur, they would be obvious choices as utilities.

Its why I blame his dad and not him.

Both are not Top 30. I'm unsure about second tier cap etc.

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Perham was definitely an option.

 

[Legal Eel]

Why not?

because I have seen him play and formed my own opinion.

Not that my opinion matters in the grand scheme of things, but I am content to trust my own eyes when evaluating a player.

 

[JokerEel]

Other players have varying quality in their performances, but I believe they are up to first grade standard.

jake is clearly not.

In addition, it is obvious to me that Jake's continued selection (despite his obvious lack of requisite quality at this point in his career) is a coaching mistake that has destabilised the team and has a clear and distinct impact on team performance (reference the Commbank Stadium stat)

If I get bored ill disprove this with images of the tries scored when he is on the field.

Lets go back to the Storm game.... The tries were scored through poor defense by Ice and Matto.

 

[JokerEel]

because I have seen him play and formed my own opinion.

Not that my opinion matters in the grand scheme of things, but I am content to trust my own eyes when evaluating a player.

Well it would be an assumption that your opinion has a bias towards it hence the amount of post on JA and no actual proof..

 

[Legal Eel]

Both are not Top 30. I'm unsure about second tier cap etc.

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Perham was definitely an option.

in your opinion, would you pick Perham over Jake?

And yes, I know that you are not the coach and that you believe only the coach's opinion matters.

but this is the most civil discussion we have had and i am curious as to your opinion?

 

[JokerEel]

BTW this is not defending JAs selection merely pointing out the bed wetters are fixated on the wrong player and or issues...

 

[Legal Eel]

If I get bored ill disprove this with images of the tries scored when he is on the field.

Lets go back to the Storm game.... The tries were scored through poor defense by Ice and Matto.

no tries were scored with him on the field in first grade at Commbank this year.

 

[hineyrulz]

Possibly the should injuries swinging the club and leg injuries filling their pockets with all the money they win from Uncle Nick....

Well Teddy runs so f**king low to the ground with all the money in his back pockets.

 

[Legal Eel]

Well it would be an assumption that your opinion has a bias towards it hence the amount of post on JA and no actual proof..

what proof would there be that he is not up to first grade standard.

It's a subjective opinion!

Albeit one that is shared by the vast majority of people who have seen him play

 

[Bandwagon]

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[Gronk]

in your opinion, would you pick Perham over Jake?

It's complex because you need cover to be a least disruptive as possible. Can Perham kick if our 6 or 7 goes down ? If not, who is the second option ? I think that BA has decided on Jake for 6,7,9 and Marata for 1,2,3,4,5 in a re-shuffle. So he thinks Marata as a better option in 3, 4 than Perham. If it came down to Jake vs Perham in the 6,7,9 then does Perham win ?

And yes, I know that you are not the coach and that you believe only the coach's opinion matters.

No, I have an opinion as do you. It's just that we don't have the day to day info that is required to make an informed judgement.

but this is the most civil discussion we have had and i am curious as to your opinion?

Yes, and TBH you have been quite confrontational at times. I of course have been a saint.