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Poupou Escobar

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If possible, ideally, yes.

But if he can be coached to work on his skills set, and footy brain, then his lack of speed may not matter that much.

Peter Sterling wasn't lightning quick, but he was smart, and skilful.

I'm not giving up on Jake - he's only just turned 20.
Stupid to write off a halfback who has played this much senior footy by age 20. He is still eligible for Flegg next year ffs. He will never have quick feet, but he only needs to be quick between the ears.
 

IFR33K

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If possible, ideally, yes.

But if he can be coached to work on his skills set, and footy brain, then his lack of speed may not matter that much.

Peter Sterling wasn't lightning quick, but he was smart, and skilful.

I'm not giving up on Jake - he's only just turned 20.


i think we’ve been there, done that. Johns would of worked with JA. Wouldn’t we be better served getting another 20 yo with a better skill set off the bat, and working with him?

You can only polish a tu… you get the drift!
 

hineyrulz

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Stupid to write off a halfback who has played this much senior footy by age 20. He is still eligible for Flegg next year ffs. He will never have quick feet, but he only needs to be quick between the ears.
And how much of that footy has been deserved??? If his last name was Escobar would he even have a top 30 contract??? Doubtful.
 

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i think we’ve been there, done that. Johns would of worked with JA. Wouldn’t we be better served getting another 20 yo with a better skill set off the bat, and working with him?

You can only polish a tu… you get the drift!

Yes, bur can you name me a player that Andrew Johns actually improved?

It seems that Joey isn't great at passing down his skills, and knowledge.

Barrett's coaching career, thus far, has been a disaster - but he's been credited for setting up some great offensive sides (by a few different people), so perhaps he'd be a better fit for Jake.

Only time will tell.

And it's probably a bit harsh to suggest a 20-year old is in the turd category, when he was clearly not physically ready to play First Grade, but was thrust in...
 

IFR33K

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I don't get why the bed wetters want to focus on JA's pace, Alfie was a 3 foot midget with half of his pace and size, look what he achieved

but carry on

Geez, first it was sterling now langer. Those players had raw talent. In bucket loads. Plus the game was a little different back then.
 
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IFR33K

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Yes, bur can you name me a player that Andrew Johns actually improved?

It seems that Joey isn't great at passing down his skills, and knowledge.

Barrett's coaching career, thus far, has been a disaster - but he's been credited for setting up some great offensive sides (by a few different people), so perhaps he'd be a better fit for Jake.

Only time will tell.

And it's probably a bit harsh to suggest a 20-year old is in the turd category, when he was clearly not physically ready to play First Grade, but was thrust in...


he’s not an nrl player and open to criticism like all other.
 

hineyrulz

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I don't get why the bed wetters want to focus on JA's pace, Alfie was a 3 foot midget with half of his pace and size, look what he achieved

but carry on
Lol Alfie Retired almost 20 years ago it’s almost a different game, and secondly Alfie was deceptively quick especially over that first 10 metres it’s why he scored so many close range tries. A lot quicker than Jakey. Watching him off the mark is like trying to watch 4K porn on dial up.
 

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