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Noise

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I remember one he picked up on his finger tips running full ball. I'd say 99% of players drop that.

Plus coaches would of had a lot of NSW cup games to follow to evaluate. Reality is Opacic and Simmonson held him out. Solid played but hardly anything special.
Neither would of held Haze out. Russel may explode onto the scene. I'd lean to the fact he will most likely at best be just an average player.
Amd I hope I am wrong.
An average player is exactly what Dunster is. He’s 23 and played 14 games. Scored 3 tries. Those 2 stats scream average winger.
 

hindy111

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If the CLUB thought JA was so great and a future star do you think they'd be going balls deep trying to secure not one of our star halves but both for around a million dollars?

I'd imagine they would let Moses walk and be happy knowing JA is going to be the next off the block.

The thing is they don't rate him. They see him as someone who can fill in for the odd game. Being young and has some improvement and time to learn the system. And cheap.

If you watch NFL sides 2nd or 3rd strong QB can sometimes be upgraded but they prefer to keep who they have cause they know the system well. Makes it easy if need to call upon them.
If they get to good then a weaker side will snag them. It's a fine balance.
 

hindy111

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An average player is exactly what Dunster is. He’s 23 and played 14 games. Scored 3 tries. Those 2 stats scream average winger.

Yes that's true. But if you followed his career he has been injured a lot. And then there was the whole covid thing that ruined 2020/2021 so that wouldn't of helped his development.
I am not saying he isn't average. I'm suggesting Russel is also no better. Neither are in Penisini class. Haze however showed a lot of improvement in his games and was stronger then I imagined. Barely ragdolled.

I wouldn't be suprised if we look to sign another back before season kicks off. Lock ins are

Guth
Sivo
Waqa
Penisini

That vacant spot is up for grabs. Laizou,Haze,Russel,Simmonson will fight it out. Probably not much between any of them.
Guys who think any of them are better then Waqa have rocks in head. They just aren't yet.
After 13 rnds maybe they can prove they are. I doubt it.
 

yy_cheng

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Yes that's true. But if you followed his career he has been injured a lot. And then there was the whole covid thing that ruined 2020/2021 so that wouldn't of helped his development.
I am not saying he isn't average. I'm suggesting Russel is also no better. Neither are in Penisini class. Haze however showed a lot of improvement in his games and was stronger then I imagined. Barely ragdolled.

I wouldn't be suprised if we look to sign another back before season kicks off. Lock ins are

Guth
Sivo
Waqa
Penisini

That vacant spot is up for grabs. Laizou,Haze,Russel,Simmonson will fight it out. Probably not much between any of them.
Guys who think any of them are better then Waqa have rocks in head. They just aren't yet.
After 13 rnds maybe they can prove they are. I doubt it.

" Haze however showed a lot of improvement in his games and was stronger then I imagined. Barely ragdolled. "

This i think could help him make it. I remembered when he first came into the team, he was ragdolled and dominated.

He went and fixed his game and was no longer ragdolled afterwards. He has bulked up and hope he has learnt how to use that bulk and becoming a bullocking player like To'o.

Russell looks light to me. But I could be wrong. Reminds me of Joel Reddy.. can weave around and a student of the game.

I still think we should give Dyl a go at FB. I want to see what his running game is like from there and how he can chime in on both sides of the ruck. Happy to even stick Guth at 6.
 

yy_cheng

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Yes that's true. But if you followed his career he has been injured a lot. And then there was the whole covid thing that ruined 2020/2021 so that wouldn't of helped his development.
I am not saying he isn't average. I'm suggesting Russel is also no better. Neither are in Penisini class. Haze however showed a lot of improvement in his games and was stronger then I imagined. Barely ragdolled.

I wouldn't be suprised if we look to sign another back before season kicks off. Lock ins are

Guth
Sivo
Waqa
Penisini

That vacant spot is up for grabs. Laizou,Haze,Russel,Simmonson will fight it out. Probably not much between any of them.
Guys who think any of them are better then Waqa have rocks in head. They just aren't yet.
After 13 rnds maybe they can prove they are. I doubt it.

Only from hype and watching his highlight reels and his physical stature and not from watching him really play.

I would like to give Asi a go at centre.

He reminds me of Corey Norman cross Justin Hodges.

But then if he already off to the cowboys for '24 then stuff him.
 

lingard

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So what's wrong with my username? Why does it make you cringe? I'm a proud homosexual man and shouldn't have to hide my sexuality in fear of people like you
For the same reason that I like going down on chicks, but on a football forum I wouldn't call myself 'pussy-eater'. It would be cring worthy.
 

lingard

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Yes that's true. But if you followed his career he has been injured a lot. And then there was the whole covid thing that ruined 2020/2021 so that wouldn't of helped his development.
I am not saying he isn't average. I'm suggesting Russel is also no better. Neither are in Penisini class. Haze however showed a lot of improvement in his games and was stronger then I imagined. Barely ragdolled.

I wouldn't be suprised if we look to sign another back before season kicks off. Lock ins are

Guth
Sivo
Waqa
Penisini

That vacant spot is up for grabs. Laizou,Haze,Russel,Simmonson will fight it out. Probably not much between any of them.
Guys who think any of them are better then Waqa have rocks in head. They just aren't yet.
After 13 rnds maybe they can prove they are. I doubt it.
Simmonson is a lot better than the other three imo.
 

Noise

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Yes that's true. But if you followed his career he has been injured a lot. And then there was the whole covid thing that ruined 2020/2021 so that wouldn't of helped his development.
I am not saying he isn't average. I'm suggesting Russel is also no better. Neither are in Penisini class. Haze however showed a lot of improvement in his games and was stronger then I imagined. Barely ragdolled.

I wouldn't be suprised if we look to sign another back before season kicks off. Lock ins are

Guth
Sivo
Waqa
Penisini

That vacant spot is up for grabs. Laizou,Haze,Russel,Simmonson will fight it out. Probably not much between any of them.
Guys who think any of them are better then Waqa have rocks in head. They just aren't yet.
After 13 rnds maybe they can prove they are. I doubt it.
This is exactly what I’ve been saying. Dunster is not a walk up start over Russell. They are both very similar, i.e. average wingers. The main difference is Dunster hasn’t played a game in forever.
 
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Angry_eel

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Yes that's true. But if you followed his career he has been injured a lot. And then there was the whole covid thing that ruined 2020/2021 so that wouldn't of helped his development.
I am not saying he isn't average. I'm suggesting Russel is also no better. Neither are in Penisini class. Haze however showed a lot of improvement in his games and was stronger then I imagined. Barely ragdolled.

I wouldn't be suprised if we look to sign another back before season kicks off. Lock ins are

Guth
Sivo
Waqa
Penisini

That vacant spot is up for grabs. Laizou,Haze,Russel,Simmonson will fight it out. Probably not much between any of them.
Guys who think any of them are better then Waqa have rocks in head. They just aren't yet.
After 13 rnds maybe they can prove they are. I doubt it.
What's so good about Penisini? He's a little better than Opacic imo, great defender but hasn't set the world on fire in attack.
 
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What's so good about Penisini? He's a little better than Opacic imo, great defender but hasn't set the world on fire in attack.
Agree. Has potential, and is only young... but to me isn't someone currently that wouldn't be displaced if we sign a better centre. (Although we'd have to sign a second better centre for Penisini to lose his spot, since we let Opacic go without replacement...)
 

Poupou Escobar

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You said Dunster performed better in his first grade “opportunities”. You can’t just ignore Russell’s opportunities because he had less. I’m sure Anyone could have scored Dunsters 3 tries in his 14 games too. I still don’t see how Dunster performed better.
Both samples are so small that tries scored is irrelevant. The more granular statistic is metres gained, and Dunster far outperformed Russell, especially in his most recent games.
 

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