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Happy MEel

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As soon as you field a second tier player in one game his entire salary counts under your second tier cap. And obviously as soon as a player signs a contract for the year, and that year's salary is inside the top 25 paid players then his whole salary counts toward the cap. There is no per-game consideration. If he's in the top 25 his entire salary counts even if he plays zero games. The only exception is if you get rid of a player before the season finishes. Then your cap is stuck with whatever you've already paid him, including any agreed payout.

Where the Dogs might be in trouble is if they have players contracted for 2017 with match payments components. If they have played more games than anticipated this year that counts toward their 2017 value under the cap. Regardless of how many games they end up playing next year.

It's confusing, but match payments and bonuses for a given year are counted under the cap (i.e. independent of what he actually gets paid that year) based on games played the previous year.

So if Kerrod Holland (for example) has a match payments contract for 2017 to the tune of $100k + $10k/game (for example), he will be paid $100k + $10k per game he plays in 2017. But his value under the cap for 2017 is unrelated to the number of games he plays next year. Instead it is based on the number of games he played this year, which was 14. So his value under the Bulldogs' 2017 cap would be $240k, whether he plays no games or whether he plays all 28 (including four finals matches). Even though his actual salary that year would be between $100k and $380k.
I wonder if Hoppa had a match payment component in his contract and the dogs had less Sunday games than they were anticipating last year.
 

hineyrulz

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...s/news-story/4849ad636197ed8f7535ccb1ffddd0b6

Semi Radradra set to turn back on Toulon riches to stay at Parramatta Eels
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Christian Nicolussi, The Daily Telegraph
November 30, 2016 8:04pm

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FLAMBOYANT Toulon owner Mourad Boudjellal’s premature declaration that Semi Radradra had signed with his French rugby club could backfire and help keep the winger at Parramatta.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal Radradra’s management team was involved in a heated phone hook-up with Boudjellal this week after it was announced the Fijian had signed for the 2017-18 season.

Radradra’s manager George Christodoulou has maintained for several days that “no contract has been issued let alone signed’’, and made a point of letting millionaire Boudjellal know he and Radradra were not happy.

Just last year, Boudjellal also trumpeted the signing of Quade Cooper, even though the Wallabies five-eighth had not put pen to paper.

Christodoulou hopes to meet Eels officials as early as next week to discuss Radradra’s options beyond 2017.

He is no hurry to give Boudjellal an answer.

Had Monday’s court hearing involving three domestic violence charges proceeded and Radradra been cleared, negotiations to keep him in the blue and gold would have become a top priority for both parties.

Radradra failed to attend Parramatta Local Court on Monday because he was in Fiji caring for his ill father.

Magistrate Tim Keady gave Radradra until Wednesday to provide sufficient medical evidence to prove his father was ill, otherwise he could have been found in breach of his bail.

Keady accepted the explanation but suspended Radradra’s passport until February 13, the same day he will fight domestic charges involving his former partner Perina Ting. Radradra has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

The confiscation of his passport will deny Radradra the chance to play in the Auckland Nines on February 4-5.

Radradra left court and travelled straight to the Central Coast to join his Parramatta teammates for a training camp.

Eels boss Bernie Gurr told The Daily Telegraph the best thing for Radradra was “to get back into routine and the grind, and sweating it out on the training track with his mates’’.

Gurr said the delay in court proceedings would make it tough to broker any immediate deal with Radradra, but he was confident the 24-year-old only had eyes for the Eels.

If found guilty of domestic violence charges, Radradra is expected to be rubbed out for the entire 2017 NRL season. If he waits until after the court case to give Toulon an answer, Radradra could also be left without a rugby deal.

Toulon are prepared to pay more than $1.2 million over two seasons, which is a figure Radradra could almost command from a cashed-up NRL club. Australia is also much closer to Fiji and Radradra’s family.

Brisbane coach Wayne Bennett has already met Radradra, and the Broncos are not short on third-party sponsors to accommodate a genuine matchwinner like him.

“In the five weeks I’ve been here, I’ve become aware of the great job the people inside this club have done to assist Semi,’’ Gurr said.

“Semi has been appreciative of that, and it’s my understanding his preference is to stay in the NRL. And it’s also my understanding he wants to stay at Parramatta.

“There’s been speculation of other clubs such as the Broncos, we’ve all heard that.

“But from every person I’ve talked to, particularly Semi’s manager, Semi’s preference is rugby league in Australia and the Parramatta Eels.’’
But but but but but I thought the clubs couldn't organise third party deal??? Or is that just some clubs like us??
 

Gary Gutful

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"All clubs aren't equal, because some clubs don't know the meaning of the word 'discretion'"― Gary Gutful, Merkin Farm
 

hineyrulz

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Are you still bitching about this?

Of course all clubs do it. They just don't record it on f**king tape and then have some ratbag f**kwit from within their ranks leak it to the media.
Bullshit!! Do you reckon the Titans do it??? Newcastle??? St George?? The Tigers???

And if all clubs do it does that make it right??? Thanks Faf de Gutful.
 

Gary Gutful

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Bullshit!! Do you reckon the Titans do it??? Newcastle??? St George?? The Tigers???

And if all clubs do it does that make it right??? Thanks Faf de Gutful.
Calm down, frothy.

We only have ourselves to blame for the shit situation we got ourselves into.
 

phantom eel

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it's a variation on the punishment the storm copped the difference is they weren't given the chance to play for points
And they couldn't have got cap compliant at that stage in the season, because they were so far over with current year contract values (rather than multi-season TPAs) that even cutting players wouldn't have saved them (from the already accrued salaries based on games any cut player had already played).
 

phantom eel

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I wonder if Hoppa had a match payment component in his contract and the dogs had less Sunday games than they were anticipating last year.
Yep, it's now probably hitting them in the salary cap for this season.

What an over-hyped, pointless signing that ex-Origin player is. No wonder they're trying to get rid of Des!
 

hineyrulz

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Calm down, frothy.

We only have ourselves to blame for the shit situation we got ourselves into.
Who's saying we don't??? I was as critical as anybody of Sharp and his merry band of f**kwits. Especially when they were given the chance to come clean and refused.


Doesn't make the cap and TPA's any less of a joke, or your statement that every club does it wrong. If every club does it how can you have a club only win one game all year??? Too many Milton Mangoes for you old Faf!!
 

Gary Gutful

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Who's saying we don't???
You are implying that we have been treated differently to others. If another club had a ratbag leak information to the NRL and then an idiot board deny it they would have had no choice but to deal with them as they dealt with Parra.

I was as critical as anybody of Sharp and his merry band of f**kwits. Especially when they were given the chance to come clean and refused.
That makes two of us, Whiney.

Doesn't make the cap and TPA's any less of a joke, or your statement that every club does it wrong.
Hang on, I think you meant to say "your statement that every club does it right". As it is written you are actually suggesting that I am not wrong.

...whoops. How many Krakens have you had this morning?

If every club does it how can you have a club only win one game all year???

Some do it better than others.

Too many Milton Mangoes for you old Faf!!

11.30am is beer o' clock somewhere.
 

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