Rumours and Stuff

[El Diablo]

Gutherson - Iceman - He is a cool cat
Bevan = 4G
Norman - Salty dog
Semi - Mesi
Brown - Charlie or murph

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

He's Gunco FFS. Ask Avenger, he'll tell you.

 

[Parra47]

Yep. Killed it playing the Walker brothers version of rugby league where the game plan was a lot of running from dummy half, particularly sideways running. I actually thought he went ok in his first season of first grade without being anything special

He also played 6 games off the bench for the Broncos in 2015. Looked good too, very quick out of dummy half.

 

[Parra47]

Read the predictions from foxsports.

Many are giving the dragons no chance. I don't rate them highly but the side isn't awfull

The pack looks as good as most and the backrow could be deadly.

8 Vaughn
9 Mcinnes
10 Packer
11 Sims
12 Frizell
13 Thompson

De bellin - Lei lua

Backline is certainly good enough to play finals

1 Dugan
2 Mann
3 Aitken
4 Mcdonald/Lafai
5 Nightingale

Halves -

Widdop
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If say Hunt or lolohea ended up there I don't see why they cant push for the top 8. Big forwards-Big strong backs. Super fullback. If this is the 2nd worse team in comp its a bloody strong comp!

Think you'll find Milne might grab a centre spot. Lafai is out of favour after a pretty poor 2016. MacDonald is more of a winger. And look out for Dufty through the year, very talented fullback who could play some NRL in 2017.

 

[Mr Pmatta]

Manly just released parcel to super league (Leeds rhinos I think?) . Does this mean Manly are getting segy ?

9 is our massive issue for 2017.[/QUOTE

Disagree.....we have 3 hookers, people need to stop obsessing in regards to not having hookers Cameron king and Kaysa will step up and De go is will b his usual reliable self, I actually think if king is actually given a go he can b one of the best rakes in the comp.

 

[hineyrulz]

We have 3 hookers, barely first grade standard.

 

[TheRam]

I actually think that we will be a very good attacking team next year. My only concern in regards to creativity is the dummy half.

If whoever plays there can't get consistent quick/crisp passes out or make the right call as to who to pass it to or which side of the field to pass or when to run, then it will stifle the rest of the team.

As we all know the dummy half is the guy that drive it all. He is the guy who gets you on the front foot and the advantage that is necessary for the play makers to then quickly react to the weaknesses in any defensive structure. So if ours is inconsistent then we could be very limited in what we can and can't do in attack.

As for the rest of the team, there is strike power all over the place.If we can't score many points, I think it will be more then likely a dummy half issue.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Think you'll find Milne might grab a centre spot. Lafai is out of favour after a pretty poor 2016. MacDonald is more of a winger. And look out for Dufty through the year, very talented fullback who could play some NRL in 2017.

And field is a smokie for half back

 

[Joshuatheeel]

We have 3 hookers, barely first grade standard.

They are first standard IDG / Pritchard are as good defensively then any hooker in the Comp. Yeah IDG attack isn't the greatest while Pritchard's has potential.

BA has choosen defence over attack for his hookers. That is why king won't get a start over Nelson until his defence improves.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

I actually think that we will be a very good attacking team next year. My only concern in regards to creativity is the dummy half.

If whoever plays there can't get consistent quick/crisp passes out or make the right call as to who to pass it to or which side of the field to pass or when to run, then it will stifle the rest of the team.

As we all know the dummy half is the guy that drive it all. He is the guy who gets you on the front foot and the advantage that is necessary for the play makers to then quickly react to the weaknesses in any defensive structure. So if ours is inconsistent then we could be very limited in what we can and can't do in attack.

As for the rest of the team, there is strike power all over the place.If we can't score many points, I think it will be more then likely a dummy half issue.

Our dummy halves didn't affect our attack last year (yeah there was the odd poor pass but overall there was no real issue), so why would it been a massive issue next year when:

- Norman will play more games
- our halves combo of Norman / Gutherson will have all offseason to work on our attack as opposed to last year when Foran wasnt really training
- we have some bigger forwards in our side then last year (Pritchard / vave)
- we will have a ball playing fullback which we didn't have.
- Jennings will have a full offseason with us.

 

[Soren Lorenson]

They are first standard IDG / Pritchard are as good defensively then any hooker in the Comp. Yeah IDG attack isn't the greatest while Pritchard's has potential.

BA has choosen defence over attack for his hookers. That is why king won't get a start over Nelson until his defence improves.

I agree. I think for our team there is less need for an attacking hooker. With our 2 ball playing halves we need the hooker to deliver clean early ball and tackle his ring off. I can also see Bevan getting into dummy half occasionally and using his speed against a retreating defensive line, ideally with Mennings or Semi backing up on the outside.

 

[El Diablo]

We have 3 hookers, barely first grade standard.

Bernie knows a few

 

[Joshuatheeel]

I agree. I think for our team there is less need for an attacking hooker. With our 2 ball playing halves we need the hooker to deliver clean early ball and tackle his ring off. I can also see Bevan getting into dummy half occasionally and using his speed against a retreating defensive line, ideally with Mennings or Semi backing up on the outside.

Yep!!

And our edge forwards in Manu / Edwards are as good attackers then most other edge forwards in the Comp.

French / Semi ( dependant on court case) / Jenning have the potential to get over 50 tries between them.

 

[strider]

Im not worried about hooker ... i think degois is better than people give him credit for
Bevan is a class player - plenty to learn but he is very good
Of the spine players, I would say the biggest question mark is Gunco ... but i also think he is quite possibly the biggest surprise packet and wouldnt be surprised if he makes a real go of it

 

[Joshuatheeel]

I think the key for Gutho to get a pass mark in the halves is defence/kicking.

We already know he has some decent attacking skills / ok passing.

He needs to be able defend in the halves, which I think he will do fairly good. He is big (for a half) / fit but also pretty mobile so should be able to defend there.

But the most important factor which is also the most unknown is his kicking game. If he can't kick then he will be pretty f**ken useless in the halves. We cannot have only one kicker in the side, it makes it too easy to target norman. So can Gutho kick?

 

[Glenneel]

Perhaps Arthur feels with limited interchanges being further reduced that having mobile props with bigger work ethics is more important...

Has the number of interchanges been reduced to 6 for 2017? Haven't heard anything about it.

Regarding the argument that big forwards would be worse than small forwards when interchanges dropped to 8, the top 4 teams all had big forward packs except Cronulla having a smallish but skilful pack.

 

[Glenneel]

I don't disagree with your sentiments of Gutherson, but Norman is, at this stage our main man. Without him, we have no chance at winning the big one. And as we all know a lot of the bad boys end up making the best leaders. He is, I feel, exactly one of these. He needs to be made the big banana. He will thrive and flourish if given the right environment and extra responsibility. To over look him for captain maybe seen by him as not having enough faith or confidence in his man/game management. This could then affect his progression and see him continue fading into and out of games.Not feeling the love has affected many and he is no different.

Personalities like Norman want to be centre stage. They thrive under the limelight of success and they crave leadership. To deny him, is to hobble the drive to be the greatest, that most sports personnel strive to be.

Unfortunately imo Norman is still a boy in a man's body. A good woman will sort him out and ground him which could propel his game to an even higher level.

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Unfortunately imo Norman is still a boy in a man's body. A good woman will sort him out and ground him which could propel his game to an even higher level.

So that's the missing piece of the puzzle in our recruitment plans?

 

[Glenneel]

Manly just released parcel to super league (Leeds rhinos I think?) . Does this mean Manly are getting segy ?

9 is our massive issue for 2017.

I think BA had plenty of time to sign segy when living with Norman and on outer with Penruff. But he didn't so doesn't want him for whatever reason, a great attacking player but very injury prone last few years. Is his defence a little iffy for BA's liking?

 

[Joshuatheeel]

There is a reason panthers got rid of Segy who was one of their better players. He is a bad influence!! Poor trainer!!