Rumours and Stuff

[forward pass]

Simona will end up at the Broncos in place of Roberts.

 

[Stevie]

You think he is on 600k?!!!!

 

[hindy111]

well then we don't believe you

Its not a LIE if you believe its the truth.

Its just some diet thing. Can read up on it if you like. Does it work? Who knows. But yes one club has given their team orders to use it for 3mth and apparently have had great results.

Sometimes with sport it is about getting a bit of an edge on your rivals. If your to arrogant to try new things you get left behind - Its all about taking risks I guess.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You think he is on 600k?!!!!

If he's being shopped around it's probably because he's on too much. How much would you say is too much?

 

[strider]

Its not a LIE if you believe its the truth.

Its just some diet thing. Can read up on it if you like. Does it work? Who knows. But yes one club has given their team orders to use it for 3mth and apparently have had great results.

Sometimes with sport it is about getting a bit of an edge on your rivals. If your to arrogant to try new things you get left behind - Its all about taking risks I guess.

sport is always about getting an edge on your opponent

so if you won't tell us we will just have to guess which team ..... does the name start with P?

 

[Avenger]

If he's being shopped around it's probably because he's on too much. How much would you say is too much?

Anything over $400k.

 

[84 Baby]

Its not a LIE if you believe its the truth.

Its just some diet thing. Can read up on it if you like. Does it work? Who knows. But yes one club has given their team orders to use it for 3mth and apparently have had great results.

Sometimes with sport it is about getting a bit of an edge on your rivals. If your to arrogant to try new things you get left behind - Its all about taking risks I guess.

Between the diet and the HGH who can be certain which is giving the great results

sport is always about getting an edge on your opponent

so if you won't tell us we will just have to guess which team ..... does the name start with P?

I'm guessing it's either Pewcastle or St. Peorge

 

[Bazal]

Good player.
But we don't need him.

I dunno...for the right price I'd love it if we signed him. Ripper player to replace Semi in the backline for 2018. Certainly a much better player than Gennings, Auva'a and the like.

 

[hindy111]

Word is Schulte is first inline for Semi. Read on tct he is ifrst one into blue team and has stepped up physcially in defense. When i saw him play he was soft. Good to see he has stepped up.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I dunno...for the right price I'd love it if we signed him. Ripper player to replace Semi in the backline for 2018. Certainly a much better player than Gennings, Auva'a and the like.

Well that's obvious, which is why they wouldn't cost anywhere near the same. Given the makeup of our team, and the fact we already have a highly paid rep outside back, do you think we should be shelling out on another one? Especially when we are already struggling to fit proven first graders into our top 17?

Mennings
Radradra (leaving)
Hoffman
Auva'a (off contract)
Gutherson
French
Takairangi

If we are intending to sign another half (and there's no guarantees Gutherson will be good enough) then we will also have to fit Gutherson into the outside backs for 2018. We might have to move Takairangi into the forwards to replace Moeroa just to fit everyone in. Unless there is massive demand for Kirisome Auva'a before we re-sign him, we will probably get the best value out of guys like him for 2018. Or even a relative unknown like Gennings.

 

[Bazal]

So we should replace a quality first grader with a depth player? That's all Genings and Auva'a are, and Auva'a is a shit human as well. With the money we had set aside for the offer to Semi we could sign Simona (for example) and have change...

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Word is Schulte is first inline for Semi. Read on tct he is ifrst one into blue team and has stepped up physcially in defense. When i saw him play he was soft. Good to see he has stepped up.

There you go, another potentially great value option.

What could our 2018 backline look like? These players are already contracted for 2018:

1. French
2.
3. Mennings
4. Takairangi
5. Hoffman
6. Gutherson
7. Norman

If we sign a half then Gutherson needs to play centre. I can't see him or French back on the wing. Neither will Mennings or Takairangi play there. Off contract options currently at the club are:

Faraimo
Folau
Gennings
Schulte
Tuha

Auva'a looks suited to the wing (at least in attack) but has never played there in first grade. He has always played centre, meaning either his defence is wasted on the wing, or his kick coverage isn't good enough. Anyway these options are all off contract (and all unproven NRL quality wingers, or proven to be no better than backups) so they might not even be at the club next year. We could sign a proven winger from outside, but I doubt it would be a more or less specialist centre like Simona. I'd say Gennings and Schulte are our best options for potentially providing value. I would expect one or both to re-sign well before mid year.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So we should replace a quality first grader with a depth player? That's all Genings and Auva'a are, and Auva'a is a shit human as well. With the money we had set aside for the offer to Semi we could sign Simona (for example) and have change...

We could replace one quality first grader with a quality first grader at a different and more important position. For example, Radradra for Mitch Moses. Don't get stuck in thinking you need a one-for-one replacement. If Gennings or Schulte could become 'good enough' we would save plenty of money to spend elsewhere.

As for Auva'a, he is too good to be a mere 'depth player' - he played over 20 games the year he won a premiership.

 

[Forty20]

Word is Schulte is first inline for Semi. Read on tct he is ifrst one into blue team and has stepped up physcially in defense. When i saw him play he was soft. Good to see he has stepped up.

I don't think your assessment of his first year at Wenty is too unfair, hindy. He really struggled with the physicality of ISP/NSW Cup.

Schulte has definitely come on big time this pre-season and hopefully he hits the ground running in Round 1. He and George Jennings give us two genuine wing options waiting in the...erm...wings, as opposed to recent times where we ended up plonking a centre like Toutai or Folau there.

 

[Bazal]

We could replace one quality first grader with a quality first grader at a different and more important position. For example, Radradra for Mitch Moses. Don't get stuck in thinking you need a one-for-one replacement. If Gennings or Schulte could become 'good enough' we would save plenty of money to spend elsewhere.

As for Auva'a, he is too good to be a mere 'depth player' - he played over 20 games the year he won a premiership.

Moses is pretty shit. Besides, I thought you were all about balance? We already have one reasonably big money half, Moses will not be asking Gutherson money. He'll be asking somewhere near Norman money, and he'll get it at a more desperate club. That's not particularly good balance, is it? Do we need two 600k+ halves? Or are we better to grab a 300-400k outside back, use the balance to re-sign Tepai and probably still hve enough for a 300-400k half should Gutherson and Fogarty fail...?

This assumes, of course, that we already have a plan for hooker. If not then obviously we should use Semi's money for that

 

[hindy111]

He was just soft, little Tuha was a dynamo thou. A real goer. Plenty of work. Just short.

We have plenty of option on wing along with a few good backs in under 20s.
I see Goodal and Lavaka have been washed out of Ma lys sytem.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Moses is pretty shit.

You're kidding. He is potentially the next Thurston. He is already at least NRL quality. Plus he plays on the right side and kicks goals.

Besides, I thought you were all about balance? We already have one reasonably big money half, Moses will not be asking Gutherson money. He'll be asking somewhere near Norman money, and he'll get it at a more desperate club.

Norman's reported $700k isn't elite money. The top halves in the game would be getting double that. I think we can afford two halves on contracts that size. Especially because we are saving money at the other spine positions.

That's not particularly good balance, is it?

Yes it is. A less-than-elite playmaker on either side of the field is the definition of balance.

Do we need two 600k+ halves? Or are we better to grab a 300-400k outside back, use the balance to re-sign Tepai and probably still hve enough for a 300-400k half should Gutherson and Fogarty fail...?

Those are certainly possibilities. The thing is Moses is more proven as an NRL half than Gutherson or Fogarty. And there's no guarantee a $300k-$400k half (e.g Townsend or Green) will be available for that money next year. There is also the issue of losing your primary playmaker. If our second best half is only worth $300k and Norman is unavailable, we suddenly find ourselves with our best half only being worth $300k. You don't want to face too many games like that.

This assumes, of course, that we already have a plan for hooker. If not then obviously we should use Semi's money for that

We already have two hookers contracted for 2018. Neither would be on huge money but both would be top 25, and probably on top 17 money.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Most of their salary comes out of Bernie's expense account so basically they're on f**k all under the cap.

 

[hineyrulz]

He was just soft, little Tuha was a dynamo thou. A real goer. Plenty of work. Just short.

We have plenty of option on wing along with a few good backs in under 20s.
I see Goodal and Lavaka have been washed out of Ma lys sytem.

Flushed is probably a better word, the place is a toilet.

 

[Twizzle]

Some one posted that image of Kenny on FB, the caption said he was practising his cramps at training.

He's a very serious trainer.