Rumours and Stuff

[bartman]

Why shouldn't he overcall them?

Already answered...

he was over calling the young halves on plays and this not the way taylor wants the team to play.

Obey the coach - he always knows best... or was that only your mantra when Kearney was coaching us?

 

[Twizzle]

Hey! I just worked it out. I can now sign in as myself from home. No more Ivor. Goodbye Ivor - and good riddance. So glad to be done with that prick. Stealing my thoughts.

Can you pass this vital information onto Phartman ?

 

[bartman]

I'll let Phantom Eel know.

 

[84 Baby]

Does anyone else get the spider-sense that fanbase is really a player jumping on to have a laugh?

 

[Glenneel]

I couldn't agree more, which is why I struggle with the fact we persisted so long with Matt Keating, then acquired a good hooker in Peats, only to release him before his contract ended (regardless of the situation), and are now looking to persist with a very mediocre hooker for another two years. Anyway, I hope you're right and we go all out for Hodgson.

In another 2 years another good hooker, probably better than Hogdson, will be running around. Apparently we have a good one in Kyle Something? coming thru so you never know, our dh may be home grown.

 

[strider]

Does anyone else get the spider-sense that fanbase is really a player jumping on to have a laugh?

Kenny Edwards? He's a funny f**k

 

[strider]

In another 2 years another good hooker, probably better than Hogdson, will be running around. Apparently we have a good one in Kyle Something? coming thru so you never know, our dh may be home grown.

I hope Something can setup something for his outside men

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Already answered...

Obey the coach - he always knows best... or was that only your mantra when Kearney was coaching us?

In this case I don't believe Taylor took away Farah's playmaking licence. If you have such a quality (and expensive) player in your team you use him to his capacity. Taylor knows that. It (the claim Farah was taking too much control) was just part of trying to drive him out of the club to free up cap space. No player is going to obey the instruction of 'take a pay cut' if they don't have to.

 

[bartman]

In this case I don't believe Taylor took away Farah's playmaking licence. If you have such a quality (and expensive) player in your team you use him to his capacity. Taylor knows that. It (the claim Farah was taking too much control) was just part of trying to drive him out of the club to free up cap space. No player is going to obey the instruction of 'take a pay cut' if they don't have to.

Lol. I want some of what you're smoking.

So a coach tells a player in the sheds he has playmaking licence, and then in every post-game media conference says the same player is taking too much on field control?

Rightly or wrongly, Farah was not playing to instruction - give the ball to/don't overcall the kids, so they can develop their playmaking experience.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Winning games requires your smartest players taking opportunities when they're there. In fact, the best playmakers are incapable of ignoring those opportunities in the heat of battle.

The only thing more important than that is having a squad worth what they're getting paid.

There's no way Taylor would tell Farah to ignore opportunities if some rookie was calling the ball. Instead he would just say after the fact that Farah repeatedly made the wrong decision (whether true or not) and use it as pretext for making him feel unwelcome in the team.

Mind games bart. Don't pretend you have no idea you f**ken worm.

 

[bartman]

Really? If - as you yourself say - Taylor was aware of the need for Farah to move on early from his contract, it follows that he was aware of the need to develop his future (cheaper) playmakers to step up before Robbie left.

I find it much easier to believe Taylor would simply amend his game instructions in what was Farah's final year, and ask Robbie (against his better judgement) to simply distribute the ball to the halves. The benefit to the club is clear, and it's an easier method to the same outcome than saying one thing to Farah at training/in front of the whole team, only to come out in the media and say the exact opposite.

That would have been one mind game that risked Taylor any future respect of the post-Robbie squad whose interests he had at heart. Not everyone is as machiavellian as you, Pou - or as prone to overanalysis when things can be quite simple.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I don't think you understand how footy works for the player on the field. The are zero players who will pass the ball to another if they believe there is a better opportunity elsewhere. In most cases they trust their team's playmakers more than their own judgement, and so will pass the ball when called.

But there is no logic in the world to convince a 200 game veteran playmaker (and current Origin) dummy half that some rookie's judgement is better than his own. And I don't believe Taylor would even try and convince him of such. Instead he just talks after the fact about chemistry and compatibility. Because it's more palatable for the fans and everyone else than talking about Farah's salary.

 

[Dibs]

u not too bright are you dibbs........ right over your head yeah?

I'm like the moon fanbase. I reflect the brightness off others. Funnily enough when I'm around you I'm like a new moon and can't be seen at all.
I bet that's like a budgie in a thunderstorm to you fanbase yeah?

 

[bartman]

I don't think you understand how footy works for the player on the field. The are zero players who will pass the ball to another if they believe there is a better opportunity elsewhere. In most cases they trust their team's playmakers more than their own judgement, and so will pass the ball when called.

Lol. So zero players follow their coach's instructions about attacking structures, and about who gets the ball on key plays... right. I played with some hogs like that in kids footy, and without exception the coach admonished them when they followed their beliefs and failed instead of following instructions to pass to the playmaker(s).

I think Taylor-Farah seems to be a similar dynamic. Sure, the instruction that Farah's role in the new attacking structure was to be a distributor rather than playmaker was partially calculated to get him out of the club - but unlike some I don't claim an instuction of that nature never actually occurred!

 

[rugby league fan]

In another 2 years another good hooker, probably better than Hogdson, will be running around. Apparently we have a good one in Kyle Something? coming thru so you never know, our dh may be home grown.

The kids name is Kyle Schneider, His currently in our SG Ball squad a year young. Kyle played dummy half and captained our successful Harold Matthews cup team and captained the Nsw u16s origin team. All reports around the club the kid is regarded very highly and is being compared to the likes of Cameron Smith. Schneider has a great work rate, astute kicking game, very strong defensively and has all the right attributes to go along way. One of the best juniors coming through at Parra.

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[Chipmunk]

In another 2 years another good hooker, probably better than Hogdson, will be running around. Apparently we have a good one in Kyle Something? coming thru so you never know, our dh may be home grown.

The kids name is Kyle Schneider, His currently in our SG Ball squad a year young. Kyle played dummy half and captained our successful Harold Matthews cup team and captained the Nsw u16s origin team. All reports around the club the kid is regarded very highly and is being compared to the likes of Cameron Smith. Schneider has a great work rate, astute kicking game, very strong defensively and has all the right attributes to go along way. One of the best juniors coming through at Parra.

I'm guessing Pritchard had the same sort of raps at the same age.

 

[rugby league fan]

I'm guessing Pritchard had the same sort of raps at the same age.

Time will tell. Only in my opinion Their are no comparisons between this kid and Pritchard. The exciting thing is this kid has only played very few games at hooker (previously being a Lock - 5/8. So to be making these rep teams as he has done with very little time to master his craft in the hooking position and being compared to one of the greats of the game already has a lot of Parra officials very excited. The kid is a natural footballer

 

[Fanbase]

Does anyone else get the spider-sense that fanbase is really a player jumping on to have a laugh?

shhhhh

just letting the idiots on here know they are idiots case they possibly don't realise they are idiots

 

[Fanbase]

Lol. I want some of what you're smoking.

So a coach tells a player in the sheds he has playmaking licence, and then in every post-game media conference says the same player is taking too much on field control?

Rightly or wrongly, Farah was not playing to instruction - give the ball to/don't overcall the kids, so they can develop their playmaking experience.

why do people still try to talk sense to pau? it can't be done. stop validating him by replying to his drivel and like the greek gods, he will fade away forever

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Lol. So zero players follow their coach's instructions about attacking structures, and about who gets the ball on key plays... right.

Yeah that's exactly what I said. :gapinganus:

I played with some hogs like that in kids footy, and without exception the coach admonished them when they followed their beliefs and failed instead of following instructions to pass to the playmaker(s).

Did those kids have 220+ NRL games as a playmaker under their belt? And were the other playmakers as inexperienced as Brooks and Moses? I guarantee you Taylor wouldn't have told Farah to stop playing what he sees. Even De Gois wouldn't have that instruction. The difference is De Gois knows he doesn't have the skill to capitalise on what he sees, and his best option is to pass it to a better playmaker. In Farah's team he has been the better playmaker since Marshall left.

I think Taylor-Farah seems to be a similar dynamic. Sure, the instruction that Farah's role in the new attacking structure was to be a distributor rather than playmaker was partially calculated to get him out of the club - but unlike some I don't claim an instuction of that nature never actually occurred!

As I said, I don't believe it occurred. I just think Taylor has focused on Farah's wrong decisions (even Thurston makes wrong decisions occasionally) after the fact, in order to drive him out.