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Poupou Escobar

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In our team, yes. But that's because of the quality of our hookers. But I'd say a hookers attack is equally as important as their defence.

If your assertion were true, we'd be playing an extra middle forward as the hooker.
Dummy half is a specialist position though, requiring constant decision making and more touches of the ball than any other player. Even if a dummy half has no running game he still needs to make decisions and handle the ball with low errors. That's why you can't (usually) just stick an extra middle forward in the 9.

Personally I think handling the ball at dummy half is an important part of the attack, but many others (fairly) think you're not 'attacking' unless you're taking on the defence.
 

Happy MEel

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If its not then its the worst stat in the world to judge a dummy half by
I can't remember the plays you referred to but often dummy halfs will initially scoot to engage the markers and then pass the ball. I don't think that should be classed as a run. However, if he beats the markers and meets the line before passing then I'd class that as a run.
 

Happy MEel

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Dummy half is a specialist position though, requiring constant decision making and more touches of the ball than any other player. Even if a dummy half has no running game he still needs to make decisions and handle the ball with low errors. That's why you can't (usually) just stick an extra middle forward in the 9.

Personally I think handling the ball at dummy half is an important part of the attack, but many others (fairly) think you're not 'attacking' unless you're taking on the defence.
Ummm...I'm pretty sure what you just described is "attack". As I argued, a hooker's attack is equally important as their defence.

I was being facetious with my middle forward comment. Must have been lost on an Internet forum.
 

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I can't remember the plays you referred to but often dummy halfs will initially scoot to engage the markers and then pass the ball. I don't think that should be classed as a run. However, if he beats the markers and meets the line before passing then I'd class that as a run.
Fine, i have no problem with that .... but if we are judging a dummy half based on 0 runs, which doesnt tell us anything about whether he is doing things to engage markers from dummy half, the its a pointless judgement
 

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Fine, i have no problem with that .... but if we are judging a dummy half based on 0 runs, which doesnt tell us anything about whether he is doing things to engage markers from dummy half, the its a pointless judgement

It also means that hookers who are not known for their running games are judged off of inconsistent stats.

I do think that tonight has shown that a smart hooker with tough defence (like Peats) is an invaluable part of your team.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Ummm...I'm pretty sure what you just described is "attack". As I argued, a hooker's attack is equally important as their defence.

I was being facetious with my middle forward comment. Must have been lost on an Internet forum.
No I got you, and I agree. But there are plenty of people who think passing from dummy half isn't contributing to the attack. As though anyone can do it consistently well.
 

Chipmunk

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In our team, yes. But that's because of the quality of our hookers. But I'd say a hookers attack is equally as important as their defence.

If your assertion were true, we'd be playing an extra middle forward as the hooker.

I believe the original post related to Jake Friends lack of running game.

I asked a question how often does Cameron Smith run the ball.
 

Happy MEel

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I believe the original post related to Jake Friends lack of running game.

I asked a question how often does Cameron Smith run the ball.
I was replying to this...

"You don't get it because you obviously don't see that a Hookers main role is defence."
 

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