Rumours and Stuff

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

in all your years have all the people in your circle been your best friends or people you would pick as your best friends? Dont your friends have friends you dont like?
On both occasions myself and others got in between the instigators to break it up.
Why does a weapon need to be involved. I have a mate (who has never hit a woman I might add) who's 40kg ex missus ripped and kicked the front door off a unit he was staying in to avoid her anger issues to get to him. 2 people had to restrain her. Dare say she would have scratched his eyeballs out if she could have got to him

Mate, I understand that situations can quickly get out of hand (I've seen some shit as well). You are allowed to use reasonable and proportionate force to defend yourself, and/or to stop someone harming themselves. You can (potentially) push someone away who is coming at you, or try to restrain them. There are few situations where you can punch them in the chops.

 

[Noise]

How many f**kwits can a bloke hang out with?He has witnessed it not just once with a friend of friend, but a second friend has done it too

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Legality doesn't make something right or wrong in and of itself.

I'm a firm believer in people getting what they deserve, and I would say that the bloke had it coming to him, which is not to say it was the right or the wrong thing to do. I can also understand the anger of being in that situation.

Whether it's justified or not is far too philisophical for a Monday night and tbh you'd just argue with me either way, wouldn't you Pou?

So you agree there are situations where people deserve to be hurt because of their actions?

The question then comes down to what actions deserve retribution, and what means can be used to provide that. Does socially disgracing and humiliating somebody deserve revenge? And what if the injured party only has physical violence available to them as the tool for that revenge?

 

[parrathruandthru]

How many f**kwits can a bloke hang out with?He has witnessed it not just once with a friend of friend, but a second friend has done it too

I'm sure your mates all think your a F**kwit too. I live in the real world not fairy tale land like you
Also proves that your not reading what I am say that makes 3 incidents of only one who is a mate. His ex wife is not a friend and never was. Lucky I only had to deal with her for a short time

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I do recognise that what I did was not legal and if it had been taken further I could have been in strife.
Would do it again if the same circumstances presented themselves.

I agree it wasn't necessarily wrong, despite the legal status of the act. That's kind of my point. But what if you weren't equipped to repay like for like and wanted to resort to some other means? Would it have been justifiable to file a false complaint and have him sacked from his job? Or what about framing him for distributing child porn and having him sent to jail? Who decides what is fair revenge for an injury?

 

[parrathruandthru]

Sure, but thankfully my friends' choice of friends haven't felt the need to belt their missus. Otherwise I'd seriously have to question the people they hang out with and the need to keep them in my life.

If the scenario you outlined was in fact how you state then he probably should have called the cops on her in the past and/or taken an AVO out against her.

Cops were called. He wanted her arrested because she was crazy and also the vandalism of ripping the door off. Cops just laughed it off

 

[phantom eel]

The question then comes down to what actions deserve retribution, and what means can be used to provide that. Does socially disgracing and humiliating somebody deserve revenge? And what if the injured party only has physical violence available to them as the tool for that revenge?

Then they get charged and arrested, for instigating physical violence in a non-physical situation.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He also explicitly said "maybe Kenny should be commended for not hitting his missus" (paraphrased).....

While I agree with your assessment of his attitude, this is the internet, and you should never paraphrase. There is a quote function. Use it.

 

[Bazal]

So you agree there are situations where people deserve to be hurt because of their actions?

The question then comes down to what actions deserve retribution, and what means can be used to provide that. Does socially disgracing and humiliating somebody deserve revenge? And what if the injured party only has physical violence available to them as the tool for that revenge?

I believe that people get what's coming to them, and that there are situations where people deserve to be punished for their actions...and that life is a great leveller.

If you're looking for one of your pedantic arguments, you'll have to play my part as well from here on in, though. I'm not arguing philosophy with a bloke whose philosophy is arguing.

 

[Noise]

I'm sure your mates all think your a F**kwit too. I live in the real world not fairy tale land like you

Why because I don't know anyone who belts their mrs?

Also proves that your not reading what I am say that makes 3 incidents of only one who is a mate.

When you talk about both blokes hitting their mrs it indicates 2:

But I have seen it happen and on both those occasions they provoked the other person into doing it. On one of those occasions there was alcohol involved. On both occasions the hitter was leaving the scene but she would not let it go. All 4 regretted the outcome but it only took a moment for the outcome to happen

And tell me again how commending someone for not putting one on her chin is different to congratulating someone for not putting one on her chin.

 

[Bazal]

"Use the quote button" (paraphrased)

I'm going to do it even less just to irritate you, Pou....

 

[Happy MEel]

Cops were called. He wanted her arrested because she was crazy and also the vandalism of ripping the door off. Cops just laughed it off

Well that's unfortunate. Perhaps he should have taken it further up the chain of command.

 

[emjaycee]

I agree it wasn't necessarily wrong, despite the legal status of the act. That's kind of my point. But what if you weren't equipped to repay like for like and wanted to resort to some other means? Would it have been justifiable to file a false complaint and have him sacked from his job? Or what about framing him for distributing child porn and having him sent to jail? Who decides what is fair revenge for an injury?

At the time, the decision on what was fair revenge was made by a 22 year old male who was face to face with the asshat that had used a 42kg, 4'11 woman as a punching bag and was living with no regret.

 

[Happy MEel]

Why because I don't know anyone who belts their mrs?



When you talk about both blokes hitting their mrs it indicates 2:



And tell me again how commending someone for not putting one on her chin is different to congratulating someone for not putting one on her chin.

Pretty much what I was going to say. He made reference to the third instance with the lady kicking down the door but never indicated he was present.

 

[Noise]

Pretty much what I was going to say. He made reference to the third instance with the lady kicking down the door but never indicated he was present.

Yep and the third instance was not a bloke hitting his mrs, which is what i have been referring to.

 

[hindy111]

you are a f**king nut

i'd hate for you to be on a jury where someone with tatts is on trial

you'd find them guilty no matter what

I have tatts.

you are a f**king nut

i'd hate for you to be on a jury where someone with tatts is on trial

you'd find them guilty no matter what

Whats tatts got to do with jury duty and being a nut. KE is an imposing figure. If he lost his shit i wouldnt provoke him. Id curl up in a ball and hope he quietly left.
Id feel intimidated. Id maybe even leak a little urine.

Do you kill ants/spiders or shoot animals?
Do you let a plant finish its cycle before removing it from the ground?

Who made the rules that you follow in this life?

 

[hindy111]

hey @hindy111 are you scared of Justin Bieber?

he looks scary with those tatts

hey @hindy111 are you scared of Justin Bieber?

he looks scary with those tatts

Out of curiosity, What made you think of a shirtless justin in undies? Man with tatts and first thought is justin in undies?

 

[hindy111]

It's not that they're tougher, but that they are more invested in wanting people to think they're tougher. Therefore there is the perception here that such men will not react well to a lack of intimidation on the part of the target and will be more likely to escalate if the other doesn't back down.

Obviously it's not necessarily true even in a general sense, but that is the perception.

I f**king love science

 

[El Diablo]

Out of curiosity, What made you think of a shirtless justin in undies? Man with tatts and first thought is justin in undies?

you claim men with tatts are scary

 

[hindy111]

Sorry El diablo i dont mean to offend you, i enjoy tongue and cheek but you keep twisting my opinion and words

you claim men with tatts are scary

Your twisting my words. Why do lawyers wear suits and are clean cut? Its about perception.
I enjoy our tongue and cheek but your not interested in my views.