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Tiger5150

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4 more days until Mozer can have a chat with El Commandante Ryles and join the Revolution. :D
Billy is actually IMO an underrated player who is hamstrung by the nepo baby tag. He was very handy in a very poor Tigers team and he certainly played his part when used at the Broncos. He is not a bad player and would probably benefit by his Dad not being there. Madge has coached him before.
 

Matty Bhoy

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Billy is actually IMO an underrated player who is hamstrung by the nepo baby tag. He was very handy in a very poor Tigers team and he certainly played his part when used at the Broncos. He is not a bad player and would probably benefit by his Dad not being there. Madge has coached him before.
Yeah Billy’s nowhere near as bad as a lot of Broncs fans make out. I sent the above to a group chat I’m in and to a man they’re hating it haha. That said, Mozer is the future, I’m hoping they somehow overlook him. Mad if they do, he’ll be very handy.
 

Poupou Escobar

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The previous coach bought Lussick back to be the first choice 9, ahead of Hands. Otherwise, why would he punt Hands back to NSW Cup virtually immediately upon Lussicks arrival mid-season?
Because he preferred Lussick to Hands. There’s nothing between them. Neither is a genuine first grader but both are solid backups. But our first choice 9 was Hodgson last year. Replacing him mid-season wasn’t going to be easy. The best we could do was Lussick, who plenty of merkins were sad to see leave after 2021. Lussick was playing in the UK which is a higher standard than NSW Cup. The alternative was someone like Meni Luke.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Hands didn't just get punted he got moved to 5/8 in reserve grade so the magical Boods got looked after in the hooker position.

I was speaking to Cayless this season a couple times when I saw him at commbank and I actually asked him once where he thought Hands best position was his response was Hands best position is dummy half.

Not in the halves where he was playing in NSW Cup & at the time I asked this Brad Arthur was still coaching us.
Every utility has a best position, but they don’t all get to play that position in reserve grade or first grade. Talagi didn’t get to play his best position this year. If Gutherson stays in 2025 he won’t be playing his best position either.
 

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Hands didn't just get punted he got moved to 5/8 in reserve grade so the magical Boods got looked after in the hooker position.

I was speaking to Cayless this season a couple times when I saw him at commbank and I actually asked him once where he thought Hands best position was his response was Hands best position is dummy half.

Not in the halves where he was playing in NSW Cup & at the time I asked this Brad Arthur was still coaching us.
That is damning. Absolutely damning. Information straight from the coaching staff. I'll be interested to hear if our resident expert in Perth had as much or better info on the machinations of our awful development in that particular position. I can only imagine he has otherwise he's been sprouting absolute BS this whole time. Would anyone be surprised??
 

Legal Eel

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Because he preferred Lussick to Hands. There’s nothing between them. Neither is a genuine first grader but both are solid backups. But our first choice 9 was Hodgson last year. Replacing him mid-season wasn’t going to be easy. The best we could do was Lussick, who plenty of merkins were sad to see leave after 2021. Lussick was playing in the UK which is a higher standard than NSW Cup. The alternative was someone like Meni Luke.
Firstly, everyone knew Hodgson was a bust the minute we bought him - well as you can attest, almost everyone.

Secondly, he has actually been off the list for a season and a half and it was apparent he was washed up to EVERYONE after two games - and yet still BA hadn’t come up with a proper plan B before he left.

the answer to all of this is the main reason BA had to go, which is that his last years at parra were more motivated by his family’s self interest than the clubs success - in short, he was hoping his sons could drive the bus to victory and solve everything!

Of course, I do not expect even the faintest acknowledgement of this from yourself - instead, I expect to be treated with sophistry beyond compare in an attempt to justify the amazing decisions of BA in general and particularly around the dummy half position, despite what is obvious to all rugby league followers.

ask yourself this question…why do you never hear the supporters of any other team saying “I really wish we could land that Brad Arthur as coach”.

instead, if BA is linked to a club there is usually a sonic boom of “f**k no!” Proportions emanating from that fanbase
 

Matty Bhoy

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Billy is better than every hooker you guys have had since Mahoooney.
No real argument from me. He’s about the same as Hands IMO, he’s more proven though. My main criticism of his play would be him overplaying his hand too much and going himself. Interesting to see how he goes next season.
 

Poupou Escobar

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That is damning. Absolutely damning. Information straight from the coaching staff. I'll be interested to hear if our resident expert in Perth had as much or better info on the machinations of our awful development in that particular position. I can only imagine he has otherwise he's been sprouting absolute BS this whole time. Would anyone be surprised??
"Absolutely damning" is it? Damning of whom? The former coach? Like he told Cayless to keep Hands away from dummy half in reserve grade? Arthur only ever picked Brendan Hands at hooker, and he never picked Matt Arthur in first grade. It was Barrett who gave him his debut. I don't need to live in Rouse Hill to know that.

As for Cayless picking him in the halves, what difference does it make? Hands is 25 years old. Dudes that age don't play reserve grade to learn how to play a position, they do it for conditioning.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Firstly, everyone knew Hodgson was a bust the minute we bought him - well as you can attest, almost everyone.
Sure, which is why Ricky Stuart picked him to start in round one in 2022, after he had signed with us.
Secondly, he has actually been off the list for a season and a half and it was apparent he was washed up to EVERYONE after two games - and yet still BA hadn’t come up with a proper plan B before he left.
You can't replace players who are still on contract unless another club wants them. It's why we've still got Dunster on the books. By the time Hodgson retired it was too late to sign anyone for 2024, and we already had Hands and Lussick on the books for 2025. We also had Matt Arthur coming through.
the answer to all of this is the main reason BA had to go, which is that his last years at parra were more motivated by his family’s self interest than the clubs success - in short, he was hoping his sons could drive the bus to victory and solve everything!
He got rid of one of his sons, who was never more than a backup, and his other son didn't make his NRL debut until after Brad Arthur had left the club.
Of course, I do not expect even the faintest acknowledgement of this from yourself - instead, I expect to be treated with sophistry beyond compare in an attempt to justify the amazing decisions of BA in general and particularly around the dummy half position, despite what is obvious to all rugby league followers.

ask yourself this question…why do you never hear the supporters of any other team saying “I really wish we could land that Brad Arthur as coach”.
Outside of the three or four top coaches, footy fans think the rest are all shit. How many of ours wanted Maguire ffs? And he is a premiership winner.
instead, if BA is linked to a club there is usually a sonic boom of “f**k no!” Proportions emanating from that fanbase
When has he ever been linked to any other club?
 

Gherkin

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Because he preferred Lussick to Hands. There’s nothing between them. Neither is a genuine first grader but both are solid backups. But our first choice 9 was Hodgson last year. Replacing him mid-season wasn’t going to be easy. The best we could do was Lussick, who plenty of merkins were sad to see leave after 2021. Lussick was playing in the UK which is a higher standard than NSW Cup. The alternative was someone like Meni Luke.
Lussick tried hard towards the back end of the year. Brought some enthusiasm off the bench and scored a few tries.
But he can’t pass, he isn’t better than Hands. You can’t have a 9 with service as poor as his, it stunts the teams attack. That’s not taking into account the times he just waddles around in defence which doesn’t get shown in stats because he isn’t even in a position to miss a tackle
 

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"Absolutely damning" is it? Damning of whom? The former coach? Like he told Cayless to keep Hands away from dummy half in reserve grade? Arthur only ever picked Brendan Hands at hooker, and he never picked Matt Arthur in first grade. It was Barrett who gave him his debut. I don't need to live in Rouse Hill to know that.

As for Cayless picking him in the halves, what difference does it make? Hands is 25 years old. Dudes that age don't play reserve grade to learn how to play a position, they do it for conditioning.
Damning. Absolutely damning...
 

King-Gutho94

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Can you believe we have the current NSW and Australian halfback in our team for next year?

Not to mention the new signing of the Australian Test MOTM vs Kiwis joining us from St George who is brand new for the team. He on his own is a huge addition regardless of where he eventually plays.

This is all before Ryles has injected his purposeful signings, strategy and defence into us.

How good!
Lomax has to play WING.

Simmonson & Russell don't score those tries yesterday if Lomax is passing the ball to them in the centres.

His a winger and will make a better impact on the wing then in the centres.

Ryles wants to talk about fixing up the culture well you bring a bloke who is demanding to play a certain position when its a better fit in another position is that really good a thing for Culture.

Sounds more like "I" instead of Team.

I am super happy he is coming i think we have lacked arrogance for a long time Lomax brings but i am little concerned about this insistence from him he will be playing in the centres.

He had 5 years in the centres and never made the impact he has had in the past 12 months on the wing.
 

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Lomax has to play WING.

Simmonson & Russell don't score those tries yesterday if Lomax is passing the ball to them in the centres.
Sivo made a living out of scoring those tries from 20m out and apparently he is 5/10 bog average. Maybe Lomax should have been passing the ball to him in 25 ? Cos who is going to be passing the ball to Lomax if he plays wing ?
 

hindy111

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Sivo made a living out of scoring those tries from 20m out and apparently he is 5/10 bog average. Maybe Lomax should have been passing the ball to him in 25 ? Cos who is going to be passing the ball to Lomax if he plays wing ?

Sivo was top 3 one on one from 20mtrs out. And decent under high ball.
But his defense was bog average and general hit ups soft. A lazy player who lacked effort a lot of the time.
 

King-Gutho94

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Sivo made a living out of scoring those tries from 20m out and apparently he is 5/10 bog average. Maybe Lomax should have been passing the ball to him in 25 ? Cos who is going to be passing the ball to Lomax if he plays wing ?
I am sure once the new coaching staff come in and make these blokes full-time footballers with some proper coaching teaching them the technical aspects of a simple catch & pass with a bit coordination it won't matter whose there.

I do know for a fact Simmonson & Russell bombed 3 or 4 tries in the wing position this year that 95% of other wingers would have scored by dropping the ball or putting a back foot on the line which should have been an easy try.

Russell in the 1st half of the Darwin debacle & Roosters match at Commbank were 2 examples i recall where he bombed easy tries most wingers score.

Simmonson in Round 10 against the Broncos at Commbank where he dropped it as he was diving over the line.

End of day Lomax is a better winger & offers more on a wing.

I dont know how much rugby league you watch outside of parramatta games but wing is a more important position then centres are these days and you have more space to move.

I would be playing him there.
 

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