Rumours and Stuff

[Soto]

Dragons have now lost Lomax, Jack Bird and Hunt. Three of their better if not best 3.
They have signed Cook, Holmes and maybe now Gutho..honestly not a club I'd be looking to go to in a hurry.
Plus they will move Sloane if Gutho go their.
Sloane may have some defensive deficiencies but he can attack from anywhere.
They have an ageing roster and adding 2 more ageing players...
Debelin is no spring chicken either.
Flanagans are both divisive characters.
I reckon they will go worse and be worse

 

[Twizzle]

Well he’s hardly going to force Moses or Drown out of the first grade side

not the point, I think he's Cup level and that's it

if one of our halves were unavailable, we've signed other younger players who would step up instead of Volkman

 

[Soto]

I highly doubt Guths body is up to 3 more years of footy in any case

 

[King-Gutho94]

Hunt gone

Flanagan's probably offered Gutho the captaincy as a sweetener as well

 

[JokerEel]

Dragons have now lost Lomax, Jack Bird and Hunt. Three of their better if not best 3.
They have signed Cook, Holmes and maybe now Gutho..honestly not a club I'd be looking to go to in a hurry.
Plus they will move Sloane if Gutho go their.
Sloane may have some defensive deficiencies but he can attack from anywhere.
They have an ageing roster and adding 2 more ageing players...
Debelin is no spring chicken either.
Flanagans are both divisive characters.
I reckon they will go worse and be worse

Also lost one of their better young outside backs to the Raiders..

But they do have that young second rower.. 100 says he is stollen by the Roosters though.

 

[JokerEel]

With Gutho almost gone that makes 10 players from our 2022 GF side to have left..

Penrith have Lost 8 from the 2022 GF side..

 

[Matty Bhoy]

Especially that Gutho is probably only leaving early as it's probably what the Dragons want for him to sign the following 2 seasons.

Yep and I certainly can’t begrudge him one last really good payday. I absolutely love The King but surely we’d all be a touch iffy if Ryles walked in the door and extended him another two years unless it was on clear unders like 350k which is more insulting than giving him the chance to go and earn more.

 

[Soto]

With Gutho almost gone that makes 10 players from our 2022 GF side to have left..

Penrith have Lost 8 from the 2022 GF side..

Some players shouldn't have been in the GF side to begin with

 

[Eelogical]

I highly doubt Guths body is up to 3 more years of footy in any case

Ol' mate @Tiger5150 laughed at my suggestion that Gutho should see his Eels contract out and step into a dream job at our COE. The game is fast and getting faster. Gutho is slow (comparatively) and getting slower. He would leave the game as a Parra great>immortal and have instant respect at the COE. He has his brand and that brand isn't at the Dragons when it comes to to the long game. That's just my take.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Fulton went to East's.
Beetson went to Parra.
Coote went to East's.

 

[emjaycee]

Fulton went to East's.
Beetson went to Parra.
Coote went to East's.

Different era and no social media mate.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Ol' mate @Tiger5150 laughed at my suggestion that Gutho should see his Eels contract out and step into a dream job at our COE. The game is fast and getting faster. Gutho is slow (comparatively) and getting slower. He would leave the game as a Parra great>immortal and have instant respect at the COE. He has his brand and that brand isn't at the Dragons when it comes to to the long game. That's just my take.

Managers and players only looking for the next pay check.

Managers especially don't care about a players legacy.

Unfortunately most players these days don't either.

 

[Eelogical]

Fulton went to East's.
Beetson went to Parra.
Coote went to East's.

All true. I’m just looking at the longer strategy considering Gutho’s position as it stands. Just imagine the last round send off for Gutho at Commbank If he calls it quits as a Parra favourite next year.

 

[Eelogical]

Managers and players only looking for the next pay check.

Managers especially don't care about a players legacy.

Unfortunately most players these days don't either.

So be it. I’ve had my say. I’ll now wait and see how this all pans out.

 

[Legal Eel]

Yep and I certainly can’t begrudge him one last really good payday. I absolutely love The King but surely we’d all be a touch iffy if Ryles walked in the door and extended him another two years unless it was on clear unders like 350k which is more insulting than giving him the chance to go and earn more.

Absolutely agree

I think this is truly a win-win. Clint has been a fantastic servant and the contract negotiation stuff doesn’t detract in my opinion, as it’s just the modern way.

This current scenario allows us the chance to fast track a rebuild without having to ignominiously cut him loose, as he gets to extend his career and bank some super.

 

[Tiger5150]

Ol' mate @Tiger5150 laughed at my suggestion that Gutho should see his Eels contract out and step into a dream job at our COE. The game is fast and getting faster. Gutho is slow (comparatively) and getting slower. He would leave the game as a Parra great>immortal and have instant respect at the COE. He has his brand and that brand isn't at the Dragons when it comes to to the long game. That's just my take.

Did Parra offer that to Guffo when they suggested he go talk to other clubs? Or do Parra want him gone? loyalty goes both ways

 

[Eelogical]

Did Parra offer that to Guffo when they suggested he go talk to other clubs? Or do Parra want him gone? loyalty goes both ways

Who knows? But it should at least be a card on the table.

 

[Chipmunk]

Who are the DragQueens offering in return? Jayden Sua would seem to fill a need.

If we give up Gutho for 2025 and get nothing in return, then we deserve the f**ken spoon.

 

[emjaycee]

Did Parra offer that to Guffo when they suggested he go talk to other clubs? Or do Parra want him gone? loyalty goes both ways

He can talk to anyone on Friday anyway.
He should stay until the end of his current contract.

 

[Avenger]

Who are the DragQueens offering in return? Jayden Sua would seem to fill a need.

If we give up Gutho for 2025 and get nothing in return, then we deserve the f**ken spoon.

I agree, unless the Saints take on his full contract and we manage to get one or two noteworthy players in return from a rival club, not promising untested rookies.