Rumours and Stuff

[Avenger]

What exactly is that (the credibility bit) supposed to mean? Coz, without details, it comes across as "I know that he really did it" or "I know he was lying about at least part of his story".

The fact that he is a cheat and used performance enhancing drugs. That bit.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

The fact that he is a cheat and used performance enhancing drugs. That bit.

Why not wait for his B sample result to be made public before you defame him? There's no benefit in front-running.

 

[Avenger]

Why not wait for his B sample result to be made public before you defame him? There's no benefit in front-running.

Waiting for that b sample is like f**king for virginity.
#helpless

 

[strider]

Could he have been given something and been dumb and just had it without question? Yes, I know being dumb isn't an excuse - but having trust in others is a nice thing at times too

 

[Twizzle]

Well these guys are drilled on what they can and can't take from Harold Matthews onwards, there really is no excuse

 

[parra pete]

Shhhhhhh

iiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttttt

 

[parra pete]

Well these guys are drilled on what they can and can't take from Harold Matthews onwards, there really is no excuse

Bloody Harold.....

 

[Glenneel]

Well these guys are drilled on what they can and can't take from Harold Matthews onwards, there really is no excuse

*Mutts

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Well these guys are drilled on what they can and can't take from Harold Matthews onwards, there really is no excuse

What if someone slips somebody a Mickey (not referring to this particular case)? Still the players responsibility and you still (rightly) cop the suspension, but the moral judgement is quite different.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Waiting for that b sample is like f**king for virginity.
#helpless

So not a big believer in due process then?

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

no one's B sample has ever tested negative

Just to insert some facts into this discussion:

All Black lock Patrick Tuipulotu cleared of doping after B sample tests negative
By Liam Napier
Updated February 9, 2017 — 3.57pmfirst published at 3.40pm


Drug Free Sport New Zealand boss Graeme Steel says Patrick Tuipulotu's doping case is a "one in 10,000" occurrence after the All Blacks lock was cleared of taking a banned substance.

Fairfax Media broke news that Tuipulotu tested positive for a specified substance last November, and was subsequently suspended from taking part in all rugby.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-...-b-sample-tests-negative-20170209-gu99uu.html

 

[Twizzle]

Just to insert some facts into this discussion:




https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-...-b-sample-tests-negative-20170209-gu99uu.html

interesting is he the only one you know of ? cuz I did a search and didn't find any

 

[Gazzamatta]

Shane Warne's mum?

Funny. Can I like twice?

 

[Avenger]

So not a big believer in due process then?

You’d be surprised. I am but this is a hopeless situation. I still however think he’s a f**kwit and a downhill skier. Never wanted him re-signed in the first place. He’s past it and maybe he thought the same which is why he ‘allegedly’ took the substance in the first place.

 

[Noise]

So not a big believer in due process then?

Something dodgy about this process. It took a few weeks to make the results of his A sample public but going on 3 months for the B sample results. It’s the same f**king test.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Something dodgy about this process. It took a few weeks to make the results of his A sample public but going on 3 months for the B sample results. It’s the same f**king test.

Sure. But for whatever reason this is not uncommon.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

You’d be surprised. I am but this is a hopeless situation. I still however think he’s a f**kwit and a downhill skier. Never wanted him re-signed in the first place. He’s past it and maybe he thought the same which is why he ‘allegedly’ took the substance in the first place.

I probably wouldn't Forgetting the individual involved, we'll find out and he'll either cop it or he won't. And he won't get any sympathy from me at that point if his B sample comes back positive.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

interesting is he the only one you know of ? cuz I did a search and didn't find any

Marion Jones, Vania Ross (cycling), a Kenyan distance runner, two Russians. Just google 'b sample negative'. It's not common but it does happen once in a blue moon.

 

[strider]

FFS Twizzle

 

[84 Baby]

What is this internet thing you speak of?