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Rocket man

Juniors
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I've been thinking about this on and off during the summer and I almost didn't post this, but seeing that our season basically hangs on the health and availability of a chronically injury prone veteran hooker, I decided to run it up the flagpole and see what happens.

There is a guy named Ben Patrick that I believe is probably the best strength and rehabilitation trainer I have ever seen. His program is called Athletics Truth Group (ATG) Knees Over Toes Guy. His ATG training focuses on building strength and conditioning while simultaneously bullet proofing the body from injury. It is also a training method that develops incredible athletic ability including explosiveness and even gaining more speed.

As far as I can tell, I don't think any club in the NRL uses his techniques, other then there was a strength coach at the Roosters named Keegan Smith, a student of Charles Poliquin (The guy Ben Patrick has modelled a lot of his techniques on) in 2019 when they won the Premiership, that did his own lesser version of it, that Patrick became aware of and reach out to him and they have since become friends, but has now left the Roosters and the NRL and does his own thing heavily based on Ben Patrick's philosophies.

I could not do these techniques justice trying to explain them other then they are very simple and that there is no pain involved and walking backwards is a huge part in doing them. Patrick himself was a basket ball player and had shot his knees from the age of 14 and by the time he was 21 he was done and could barely walk. Even when he was playing he could never dunk a basket, he just didn't have that type of explosiveness, but you should see hem now.

He trains the everyday common man no matter what age or condition they are in to the very elite professional athletes of American sports. His ATG program that he has refined and perfected has only been around for around 10 years and he has gone from total obscurity to around a million followers in a handful of years. He is also still young and when you watch some of his videos he is blowing away some of the most powerful athletes that just can't keep up with him.

Anyway, the main purpose for this post is knowing that some of you here have contacts within our club, maybe after seeing for yourselves what this guy does and what he can achieve, that you may mention to someone at the club to check him out. I mean not only would our dummy half potentially eradicate a reoccurrence of another ACL injury, but these techniques also can add speed and that all to vital explosiveness off the mark that is such a gift to have in the NRL.

Also a player like Moses could benefit immensely by strengthening his calf muscles that he has had trouble with in recent seasons and even add more power to his speed off the mark without fear of tearing calves, hamstrings or Achilles tendons. As we get older calves only get worse not better and are known as 'old man injuries'.

So I will add a few links to this guys videos and please check them out. Like I said, I think this guy is the best I have seen and many of his techniques are contrary to what other trainers prescribe. But the proof is in the pudding. The more you watch and listen to him, the more it all makes sense and is so damn logical. Oh and it doesn't take long to achieve the benefits, so starting now for our players would still see great improvements for this season. Cheers





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TheRam

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Have they taken the "like" button away Or is there some block from my end and how the hell do you send a private message FFS! This site is like a hidden puzzle of sorts. Make it easier ffs!!!
 

IFR33K

Coach
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17,043
I've been thinking about this on and off during the summer and I almost didn't post this, but seeing that our season basically hangs on the health and availability of a chronically injury prone veteran hooker, I decided to run it up the flagpole and see what happens.

There is a guy named Ben Patrick that I believe is probably the best strength and rehabilitation trainer I have ever seen. His program is called Athletics Truth Group (ATG) Knees Over Toes Guy. His ATG training focuses on building strength and conditioning while simultaneously bullet proofing the body from injury. It is also a training method that develops incredible athletic ability including explosiveness and even gaining more speed.

As far as I can tell, I don't think any club in the NRL uses his techniques, other then there was a strength coach at the Roosters named Keegan Smith, a student of Charles Poliquin (The guy Ben Patrick has modelled a lot of his techniques on) in 2019 when they won the Premiership, that did his own lesser version of it, that Patrick became aware of and reach out to him and they have since become friends, but has now left the Roosters and the NRL and does his own thing heavily based on Ben Patrick's philosophies.

I could not do these techniques justice trying to explain them other then they are very simple and that there is no pain involved and walking backwards is a huge part in doing them. Patrick himself was a basket ball player and had shot his knees from the age of 14 and by the time he was 21 he was done and could barely walk. Even when he was playing he could never dunk a basket, he just didn't have that type of explosiveness, but you should see hem now.

He trains the everyday common man no matter what age or condition they are in to the very elite professional athletes of American sports. His ATG program that he has refined and perfected has only been around for around 10 years and he has gone from total obscurity to around a million followers in a handful of years. He is also still young and when you watch some of his videos he is blowing away some of the most powerful athletes that just can't keep up with him.

Anyway, the main purpose for this post is knowing that some of you here have contacts within our club, maybe after seeing for yourselves what this guy does and what he can achieve, that you may mention to someone at the club to check him out. I mean not only would our dummy half potentially eradicate a reoccurrence of another ACL injury, but these techniques also can add speed and that all to vital explosiveness off the mark that is such a gift to have in the NRL.

Also a player like Moses could benefit immensely by strengthening his calf muscles that he has had trouble with in recent seasons and even add more power to his speed off the mark without fear of tearing calves, hamstrings or Achilles tendons. As we get older calves only get worse not better and are known as 'old man injuries'.

So I will add a few links to this guys videos and please check them out. Like I said, I think this guy is the best I have seen and many of his techniques are contrary to what other trainers prescribe. But the proof is in the pudding. The more you watch and listen to him, the more it all makes sense and is so damn logical. Oh and it doesn't take long to achieve the benefits, so starting now for our players would still see great improvements for this season. Cheers






Awesome to see you back. But can you summarize your posts please
 

hindy111

Post Whore
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I've been thinking about this on and off during the summer and I almost didn't post this, but seeing that our season basically hangs on the health and availability of a chronically injury prone veteran hooker, I decided to run it up the flagpole and see what happens.

There is a guy named Ben Patrick that I believe is probably the best strength and rehabilitation trainer I have ever seen. His program is called Athletics Truth Group (ATG) Knees Over Toes Guy. His ATG training focuses on building strength and conditioning while simultaneously bullet proofing the body from injury. It is also a training method that develops incredible athletic ability including explosiveness and even gaining more speed.

As far as I can tell, I don't think any club in the NRL uses his techniques, other then there was a strength coach at the Roosters named Keegan Smith, a student of Charles Poliquin (The guy Ben Patrick has modelled a lot of his techniques on) in 2019 when they won the Premiership, that did his own lesser version of it, that Patrick became aware of and reach out to him and they have since become friends, but has now left the Roosters and the NRL and does his own thing heavily based on Ben Patrick's philosophies.

I could not do these techniques justice trying to explain them other then they are very simple and that there is no pain involved and walking backwards is a huge part in doing them. Patrick himself was a basket ball player and had shot his knees from the age of 14 and by the time he was 21 he was done and could barely walk. Even when he was playing he could never dunk a basket, he just didn't have that type of explosiveness, but you should see hem now.

He trains the everyday common man no matter what age or condition they are in to the very elite professional athletes of American sports. His ATG program that he has refined and perfected has only been around for around 10 years and he has gone from total obscurity to around a million followers in a handful of years. He is also still young and when you watch some of his videos he is blowing away some of the most powerful athletes that just can't keep up with him.

Anyway, the main purpose for this post is knowing that some of you here have contacts within our club, maybe after seeing for yourselves what this guy does and what he can achieve, that you may mention to someone at the club to check him out. I mean not only would our dummy half potentially eradicate a reoccurrence of another ACL injury, but these techniques also can add speed and that all to vital explosiveness off the mark that is such a gift to have in the NRL.

Also a player like Moses could benefit immensely by strengthening his calf muscles that he has had trouble with in recent seasons and even add more power to his speed off the mark without fear of tearing calves, hamstrings or Achilles tendons. As we get older calves only get worse not better and are known as 'old man injuries'.

So I will add a few links to this guys videos and please check them out. Like I said, I think this guy is the best I have seen and many of his techniques are contrary to what other trainers prescribe. But the proof is in the pudding. The more you watch and listen to him, the more it all makes sense and is so damn logical. Oh and it doesn't take long to achieve the benefits, so starting now for our players would still see great improvements for this season. Cheers







Good to see you back buddy. I was trying to PM you. Need to pass on a message. It seems unavailable on your settings.
 

84 Baby

Referee
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I've been thinking about this on and off during the summer and I almost didn't post this, but seeing that our season basically hangs on the health and availability of a chronically injury prone veteran hooker, I decided to run it up the flagpole and see what happens.

There is a guy named Ben Patrick that I believe is probably the best strength and rehabilitation trainer I have ever seen. His program is called Athletics Truth Group (ATG) Knees Over Toes Guy. His ATG training focuses on building strength and conditioning while simultaneously bullet proofing the body from injury. It is also a training method that develops incredible athletic ability including explosiveness and even gaining more speed.

As far as I can tell, I don't think any club in the NRL uses his techniques, other then there was a strength coach at the Roosters named Keegan Smith, a student of Charles Poliquin (The guy Ben Patrick has modelled a lot of his techniques on) in 2019 when they won the Premiership, that did his own lesser version of it, that Patrick became aware of and reach out to him and they have since become friends, but has now left the Roosters and the NRL and does his own thing heavily based on Ben Patrick's philosophies.

I could not do these techniques justice trying to explain them other then they are very simple and that there is no pain involved and walking backwards is a huge part in doing them. Patrick himself was a basket ball player and had shot his knees from the age of 14 and by the time he was 21 he was done and could barely walk. Even when he was playing he could never dunk a basket, he just didn't have that type of explosiveness, but you should see hem now.

He trains the everyday common man no matter what age or condition they are in to the very elite professional athletes of American sports. His ATG program that he has refined and perfected has only been around for around 10 years and he has gone from total obscurity to around a million followers in a handful of years. He is also still young and when you watch some of his videos he is blowing away some of the most powerful athletes that just can't keep up with him.

Anyway, the main purpose for this post is knowing that some of you here have contacts within our club, maybe after seeing for yourselves what this guy does and what he can achieve, that you may mention to someone at the club to check him out. I mean not only would our dummy half potentially eradicate a reoccurrence of another ACL injury, but these techniques also can add speed and that all to vital explosiveness off the mark that is such a gift to have in the NRL.

Also a player like Moses could benefit immensely by strengthening his calf muscles that he has had trouble with in recent seasons and even add more power to his speed off the mark without fear of tearing calves, hamstrings or Achilles tendons. As we get older calves only get worse not better and are known as 'old man injuries'.

So I will add a few links to this guys videos and please check them out. Like I said, I think this guy is the best I have seen and many of his techniques are contrary to what other trainers prescribe. But the proof is in the pudding. The more you watch and listen to him, the more it all makes sense and is so damn logical. Oh and it doesn't take long to achieve the benefits, so starting now for our players would still see great improvements for this season. Cheers





I’d be surprised and disappointed if the club weren’t at least aware of these exercises because 2 of my past trainers both recommended them and my physio when I did my knee over 20 years ago also advised me to do them.
The caveats I’d put on them are this guy is obviously doing a sales pitch for them and so just smashes these out, so to get the same results would reduce the availability for other exercises needed as a league player, and while they do provide some pain relief, they don’t provide immediate results in strength and don’t provide protection from torque injuries that are the regular cause of these injuries in NRL.

But it terms of every poster here, I’ll recommend the first exercise in your post for very obvious reasons. Helps with hips and back too.
 

TheRam

Coach
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Good to see you back buddy. I was trying to PM you. Need to pass on a message. It seems unavailable on your settings.

Yeah I have no idea what my settings are doing and this site sucks to much for me to care.

Oh and as you you my little buddy...

You are my sunshine
My only sunshine
You make me happy
When skies are gray
You'll never know, dear Hindy
How much I miss you
Please don't take
My sunshine away
 

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