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Poupou Escobar

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Data is the raw results. Evidence becomes the accepted analysis of said data. Do you think I can do a random survey of eels fans opinion of BA and call it evidence? f**k no. The stats would be raw data. Nothing more.
Data + analysis = evidence

The analysis either makes sense or it doesn’t. If it does it’s evidence. Evidence against the argument might also exist but first it needs to be supported by data and make sense.
 

84 Baby

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In other news, how big of f**ks are the Balmain Tigers backers? Get bailed out by Wests and the NRL and now they want to try and go it alone. Receiving a white elephant upgrade from Albo too.
 

lucablight

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Management is itself a resource, and when it stems from the club’s ‘ownership’ structure it is indeed inherent.

Just like the Panthers, we made a huge change. But where they went out and got a huge funding injection from James Packer, we changed our constitution to increase stability on our boards. The result is that in the previous 22 years (an arbitrary number based on the 11 that people think is so relevant), we won 6 finals matches in the first 18 years and 4 in the most recent 6 years since the change in management structure. 2024 is the outlier in this recent period of strength. Years before 2018 don’t belong to the current board. Dumping it on the coach is just scapegoating. He is only the coach, but his record (including finals) since 2019 proves his quality. His record pre-2019 was due to being at a weak club.
Very adhoc justifications. Phil Gould took over in 2011 and received funding from Packer in 2012. Penrith didn’t go on their run until 2020 (didn’t win the premiership until 2021).
Did we not have the resources to be premiership contenders during the 2010s or was the club mismanaged despite the resources available?
 

lucablight

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We don’t know the truth. Our interpretation of the evidence is just an assessment, the quality of which varies between individuals. For example I am very smart and meticulous, so my assessments are more likely to be accurate than someone who is a lazy dumb merkin who complains about stats.
I respect the fact that you don’t always buy into the consensus view but ironically you can end up being dogmatic when it comes to defending your own views.
 

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