Rumours and Stuff

[Poupou Escobar]

In a team that never lost a game. Have to fit everyone in somewhere.

he also played 6 for Aus Schoolboys

No he didn't. Galvin didn't play Australian Schoolboys in 2022. He wasn't good enough.

His classmate Blaize Talagi was though: https://www.nrl.com/news/2022/07/11/2022-australian-schoolboys-team-announced/

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You'd imagine he will.

Our clubs never made the wrong call.

You think we should've kept Galvin/Talagi/Sanders over Moses and Drown?

If you were running the club we would've run last this year. We would never win a preliminary final.

If TheRam was helping you we would win three straight wooden spoons.

 

[hindy111]

You think we should've kept Galvin/Talagi/Sanders over Moses and Drown?

If you were running the club we would've run last this year. We would never win a preliminary final.

We should of kept Blaize. He is a special talent.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We should of kept Blaize. He is a special talent.

So is Dylan Brown. So is Isaiya Katoa. You can't keep them all.

 

[hindy111]

So is Dylan Brown. So is Isaiya Katoa. You can't keep them all.

We seem to keep 1 in 10.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We seem to keep 1 in 10.

That's because the other nine are all shit. Noel Aukafolau ffs. What's he up to these days?

 

[TheCrowe]

All in the past. New era begins today.

 

[Tiger5150]

No he didn't. Galvin didn't play Australian Schoolboys in 2022. He wasn't good enough.

In 2022 he wasnt old enough.

In 2023 he was Captain and 5/8 of Australian Schoolboys.


One year later he played a whole season of 5/8 in NRL without ever playing Jersey Flegg or NSW Cup.

 

[Tiger5150]

You think we should've kept Galvin/Talagi/Sanders over Moses and Drown?

I dont think you kick out 15/16 year olds because of the 30yo you have in first grade...no. Particularly as you keep harping on about the 15/16yo can play 2RF. I think when you are developing juniors, you keep the best of them.

If you were running the club we would've run last this year. We would never win a preliminary final.

tbh if I was running the club, with the logic I am arguing, Parramatta would be a powerhouse and making the finals every year. Penrith, Parramatta and Wests Tigers have the best junior nurseries in the NRL and should be producing a conveyor belt of quality NRL juniors that power these teams to success. Only one of the three teams is doing that, Penrith.

Tigers are shit and have been for a long time, however one of the few things they are doing right (mostly because of lack of options) is concentrating on juniors. When the Tigers sacked Madge 2 years ago, a big reason quoted was that he was not developing juniors through the grades. When the club brought back the dinosaur that is Tim Sheens, the one thing he is proven at is developing juniors and this is what he was backing his success on. It happened to coincide with the Magpies going undefeated in Harold Matts so its a pretty easy tactic. The side that got pumped by Parra last night had 7 Tigers juniors in the team and another 4 players who were not Tigers juniors but debuted with us, so 11/17 are juniors or debuted with us. This will pay dividends in the next two seasons.

Pou I know you are trolling but your argument that Parra dont need to hold and develop superstar juniors because you already have two good halves is insane and the opposite of what a successful club needs to do. I am not here arguing my club is good and your club is shit....at the moment we are both shit, but simply from a straightforward rugby league development discussion, arguing you should punt a junior who would be Captain and 6 of Aus Schoolboys 18months later because you have 30yo Mitchell Moses is crazy.

 

[chiefy1]

We should of kept Blaize. He is a special talent.

But where do you play him? Forget about wing and especially fullback as he doesn't have the pace. He's ok at centre, but really he's a 6. Penrith had the 6 vacant so there was little hope he'd wait behind Dylan.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

All in the past. New era begins today.

We'll see.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

In 2022 he wasnt old enough.

But Talagi was, despite being born in the same year.

In 2023 he was Captain and 5/8 of Australian Schoolboys.


One year later he played a whole season of 5/8 in NRL without ever playing Jersey Flegg or NSW Cup.

It's good that he finally sorted his shit out. When Dylan Brown was Galvin's age he carved up the Broncos in a 58-0 finals win. The year before that (aged 18) he played reserve grade. The year before that (aged 17) he won SG Ball playing halfback and made the Toyota Cup grand final, also in the halves. Never played Australian Schoolboys though. I guess he was too busy.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Over at the Tigsters these days, it seems we are getting a lot of value out of using First Grade as a stepping stone to KOE or junior pathways comps.

…just kidding, we’re totally f**ked in those as well.

 

[Tiger5150]

It's good that he finally sorted his shit out. When Dylan Brown was Galvin's age he carved up the Broncos in a 58-0 finals win. The year before that (aged 18) he played reserve grade. The year before that (aged 17) he won SG Ball playing halfback and made the Toyota Cup grand final, also in the halves. Never played Australian Schoolboys though. I guess he was too busy.

When Dylan Brown was 17 Parramatta made the second week of the finals and their halves were Cory Norman and Mitchell Moses. Both Norman and Moses are better than Drown, how come Parra didnt get rid of Drown when he was 17?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I dont think you kick out 15/16 year olds because of the 30yo you have in first grade...no. Particularly as you keep harping on about the 15/16yo can play 2RF. I think when you are developing juniors, you keep the best of them.


tbh if I was running the club, with the logic I am arguing, Parramatta would be a powerhouse and making the finals every year. Penrith, Parramatta and Wests Tigers have the best junior nurseries in the NRL and should be producing a conveyor belt of quality NRL juniors that power these teams to success. Only one of the three teams is doing that, Penrith.

They have recruitment/retention benefits at the top 30 level that our clubs don't have.

Tigers are shit and have been for a long time, however one of the few things they are doing right (mostly because of lack of options) is concentrating on juniors. When the Tigers sacked Madge 2 years ago, a big reason quoted was that he was not developing juniors through the grades. When the club brought back the dinosaur that is Tim Sheens, the one thing he is proven at is developing juniors and this is what he was backing his success on. It happened to coincide with the Magpies going undefeated in Harold Matts so its a pretty easy tactic. The side that got pumped by Parra last night had 7 Tigers juniors in the team and another 4 players who were not Tigers juniors but debuted with us, so 11/17 are juniors or debuted with us. This will pay dividends in the next two seasons.

Our 2022 grand final team had 8 players who played in our junior reps and 2 more who debuted with us. It doesn't help long term if they demand overs to stay. Look at your experience with Utoikamanu. Young mercenaries are still mercenaries.

Pou I know you are trolling but your argument that Parra dont need to hold and develop superstar juniors because you already have two good halves is insane and the opposite of what a successful club needs to do.

No I'm saying they won't stick around to play second fiddle. We got rid of Corey Norman (who went on to play Origin) to fit Drown into the team. Otherwise he was off to the Warriors.

I am not here arguing my club is good and your club is shit....at the moment we are both shit, but simply from a straightforward rugby league development discussion, arguing you should punt a junior who would be Captain and 6 of Aus Schoolboys 18months later

Australian Schoolboys is meaningless, because the best schoolboys are already full time sportsmen and their clubs won't let them play. Playing NRL (albeit for the wooden spooners) is a genuine flex and Galvin should be proud. Playing for the Australian Schoolboys is not a flex.

because you have 30yo Mitchell Moses is crazy.

We didn't punt Galvin because of Moses, we punted him because of Brown and Talagi. They were already at a much higher level than Galvin when we let him go. The fact he has evolved from an edge forward is a credit to him. But clubs can't hang onto every ordinary youngster in the hope he turns out great. They need to focus on the high performers.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

When Dylan Brown was 17 Parramatta made the second week of the finals and their halves were Cory Norman and Mitchell Moses. Both Norman and Moses are better than Drown, how come Parra didnt get rid of Drown when he was 17?

Because he wasn't playing second row at 17 ffs

 

[Tiger5150]

Because he wasn't playing second row at 17 ffs

Why would you let a 2RF go because of better halves? Makes no sense. Your argument is that Parra let Galvin go because they had Moses and Brown?

 

[Tiger5150]

But Talagi was, despite being born in the same year.

It's good that he finally sorted his shit out. When Dylan Brown was Galvin's age he carved up the Broncos in a 58-0 finals win. The year before that (aged 18) he played reserve grade. The year before that (aged 17) he won SG Ball playing halfback and made the Toyota Cup grand final, also in the halves. Never played Australian Schoolboys though. I guess he was too busy.

Dylan Brown played Aus schoolboys in 2017

 

[JokerEel]

Parra was offered Jacob Liddle, that would have been a much better option. Was shocked Parra went for Hodgson.

Hands is still better than Liddle

 

[Pazza]

But where do you play him? Forget about wing and especially fullback as he doesn't have the pace. He's ok at centre, but really he's a 6. Penrith had the 6 vacant so there was little hope he'd wait behind Dylan.

How about in nsw cup?? Like a proper development club would....