Rumours and Stuff

[Poupou Escobar]

I just think we need to have more discussion on why Nathan Brown moved his family to the Gold Coast.....very strange it hasn't been brought up....

To get away from Brad Arthur's, obviously

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It's not about making the finals....it's about making the finals and being geniune premiership contenders

In that case we haven't been genuine contenders since 2005. That's a lot of scapegoats.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I may agree with you, but all you really care about is getting into pointless arguments online about every little thing. And you have a f**king shit memory which is why you continually get exposed.

My memory is fine. If I had said any of the shit you accuse me of saying you would be able to find it with the search function. But you can't, because you don't remember.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

BA’s sample size in prelims cannot be compared to Smith’s. You’re just being a dickhead, again.

I agree. Unless a sample is close to a full season (20+ games) it is meaningless.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The problem was that we lost 5-6 players and they were replaced in the squad with inferior players.

Players 28-31 would've been irrelevant if the 5-6 players were as good as the ones we lost.

Why would we replace them with players as good as the ones who left? We might as well keep the old ones.

They left because they were on unders, and we couldn’t afford to pay them what they were worth because of the salary cap.

 

[Chipmunk]

Why would we replace them with players as good as the ones who left? We might as well keep the old ones.

They left because they were on unders, and we couldn’t afford to pay them what they were worth because of the salary cap.

We found those one for those prices, we should've found similar ones for similar prices.

Instead, we found inferior ones for the same price.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We found those one for those prices, we should've found similar ones for similar prices.

They weren't that good when we found them. We improved them, which is why they were on unders by the time their contracts ended.

Instead, we found inferior ones for the same price.

I doubt it was the same price. There was less cap space to replace the ones who left, since we kept some of the improvers by paying them what they were worth. Look at that 2022 side. How many of them were just as good when they first arrived at the club? Some improved immediately but most of them improved gradually, over many years. That's how we assembled a squad with so many players on unders. You can't just go out and buy a bunch of merkins on unders. For every Papali'i or Hopgood you get a Doorey or a Greig.

 

[Chipmunk]

They weren't that good when we found them. We improved them, which is why they were on unders by the time their contracts ended.

I doubt it was the same price. There was less cap space to replace the ones who left, since we kept some of the improvers by paying them what they were worth. Look at that 2022 side. How many of them were just as good when they first arrived at the club? Some improved immediately but most of them improved gradually, over many years. That's how we assembled a squad with so many players on unders. You can't just go out and buy a bunch of merkins on unders. For every Papali'i or Hopgood you get a Doorey or a Greig.

But the club should've been aware that all those players would eventually reach their ceiling for what the club could afford to pay them and they would move on.

So, we should've been planning at least a season or two ahead. A production line one might say, instead of trying to find new players after the other ones have decided they were leaving.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

But the club should've been aware that all those players would eventually reach their ceiling for what the club could afford to pay them and they would move on.

I'm sure they were aware, but premiership windows exist for a reason. Just knowing the value of your players will increase and they will be pushed out doesn't mean you can stop it happening.

So, we should've been planning at least a season or two ahead. A production line one might say, instead of trying to find new players after the other ones have decided they were leaving.

It sounds expensive. That might explain why not everyone is doing it.

 

[hineyrulz]

We used 31 players in each of the past two seasons, and only 27 when we made the grand final. The problem wasn’t players 27 to 31, the problem was that we had to use them.

@hindy111 such a valuable service.

 

[hineyrulz]

Arthur’s grand final record is no worse than Smith’s, and his record in preliminary finals is way better

 

[Jake the snake]

He’s having another break down before he goes
Missing for a month.

 

[hineyrulz]

He’s having another break down before he goes
Missing for a month.

It's been a bad year for Pou, a baaaaaaaaad baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad year.

 

[Pazza]

Don't expect them to. They are off contract and free to test the market. If we want to keep them, we will have made them new offers, like any other off contract player.

You're missing the other vital component to the situation.

Nov 1 approaches and we have 2 million dollars in cap space in limbo. I doubt Ryles is thrilled

 

[Hindmarshisgod2]

In that case we haven't been genuine contenders since 2005. That's a lot of scapegoats.

So we weren't geniune contenders in 09 when we made the GF??

Or in 07 when we made the preliminary??

Your off your head.

Those years we could have beaten anybody on our day and didn't need the opposition to shit the bed so we could beat them, and had a team stacked with talent. I'd go as far as including 2010 as a genuine contenders even though we didn't make the 8...

 

[Avenger]

I agree. Unless a sample is close to a full season (20+ games) it is meaningless.

So why bring it up and attempt to compare them? Trolling?

 

[84 Baby]

He certainly will be a large cat.

Brisbane Lions you reckon?

or Perth Wildcats?

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Jordan Semrani is 23 next year, was recruited by the dogs from the sharks.

He made some pretty big metres in a few games this year !

In his full games, or close enough, at centre he averaged 181m

 

[hindy111]

Sure. Just stop pretending that youngsters with NRL potential are cheap.

Alamoti the exception

 

[Obscene Assassin]

What are your thoughts on the two edge forwards who started ahead of him this year, Lokeni and Funa-Iuta?

He's more of a middle but even then we recruited Beau Lucien, Lawson Moffitt, Max Popo, Javahn Stevenson-Hala who all played ahead of him.