Rumours and Stuff

[lucablight]

I’d say the ability to clear cap space is one thing that separates the better resourced clubs from the rest. If you can clear cap space reliably, it means your speculative signings are far less risky.

We must be very well resourced considering we effortlessly moved on our big money fullback and prop.

 

[Avenger]

I’d say the ability to clear cap space is one thing that separates the better resourced clubs from the rest. If you can clear cap space reliably, it means your speculative signings are far less risky.

So are we suddenly now better resourced because we boned Gutherson and RCG?

 

[Glenneel]

Do you find it odd the Storm can keep
Pezet ( offered about 600k elsewhere) Faaalogo ( Would get 700k open market)
Wishart ( 500k + start spot) all as basically back ups.
It's absolutely wild when their spine has the best hooker +5/8 in game along with a fullback and Halfback on around 900k each.
I'm unsure how the NRL and fans don't find this is fishy. It wreaks.

Rehashing what I've already said at least twice before. Yes it stinks like a rotting fish and NRL blind, deaf and dumb as usual when comes to Storm (and Broncos their other love child).

Another stink, Hunt left $1.2/yr behind at Drags and signed on at Broncos for supposedly $600k for 2 years when also had other suitors and NRL assessed his salary, for cap, at what now getting paid. Who believes, firstly, he'd leave for half the money and secondly hes market value is only worth what he's getting paid???

 

[King-Gutho94]

So are we suddenly now better resourced because we boned Gutherson and RCG?

Sounds like it going off Pou logic

 

[Glenneel]

I’m sure you were one of the ones having a massive sook about it. I wasn’t happy either but I understood why they left. They weren’t going to be displacing Drown or Moses, and they didn’t want to hang around to see if either of them left.

They do at the Storm.

 

[Glenneel]

In his latest interview, MON says we are happy with the squad. We didn’t suck last year because the squad was shit, we sucked because of key injuries and senior players underperforming. Injuries can’t be helped but we have (probably) solved the underperformance issue by sacking the coach and some senior players. We also signed some proven talent (Lomax, Addo-Carr, Williams) and some unproven (Iongi plus re-signed Guymer). The 2025 squad is at least as good as it was in 2024.

Get a grip! This squad is better (even with some unproven players) in that all positions now have backups and we're much faster overall in backline. Injuries should be less of an issue now!

 

[Glenneel]

I don't think Gus has a clue at the Bulldogs.

Doing to Dogs what he did at Penrith before Cleary's second stint. NFI! Gave players away that Cleary specifically told him he wanted. Its as if he wants the coach to fail so he can keep being relevant, the great savour to the rescue. Penrith thrived after he left (was sacked).

 

[AnonymousLurker]

Yeh don’t know why so many fall for the Gus Coolaid

Coaches are typically a revolving door under him , he will talk up players as being the best thing since sliced bread and then get rid of them the next breathe. Long term big dollar deals mean nothing as he has no hesitation moving them on. Trent Merrin will forever be sketched in my memory along with the shenanigans with the Maloney and Moylan swap.

Only reason he hits upon good players or superstars for clubs he runs is because he buys 100s of players then releases them and then gets more and due to numbers he has signed over the course of his employ he is bound to hit on gold at some point

 

[Glenneel]

You’re the one stuck in the past if you think chase the collision refers to tactics. If you knew anything about professional sports you’d recognise it as an example of a mantra, which is used to help athletes focus on a specific area of their game. In this example it was likely used to help our players improve their aggression and work rate in defence, which has been an area of weakness for our team.

MY LAST REPLY, HONESTLY. BA bought Barrett in to change his tactics which were one dimensional and stale as had NFI what to do other than 'chase the collision' which he repeated at nearly every press conference..

Because if you ask coaches which players they want they will all come up with the same list of players (“The best ones ffs!”). Identifying good players is the easy part. The hard part is negotiating their contracts and fitting them under the cap.

Did you actually read what I said? Based on Ryles recruitment so far his only recruit of note is JAC, all the rest being on potential. Blows your argument out of the water.

You're right that it would be stupid to have recruitment and retention completely independent of the coach, but it would also be stupid to put all the responsibility on him. There would be a very clear conflict of interest for one thing. Another reason is that he could get the club into very serious cap trouble that would last beyond his tenure at the club.

At Parra, MON said the coach tells them how he wants the team to play, and the list management group recruits players who will fit into that style. I've read that coaches might also have veto power over any signing decision, which makes sense. But that also might lead to a situation where the club doesn't have enough top 30 players because the coach doesn't want any of the players that are available on the market. So the list management group is there to take a big picture, dispassionate view of the squad.

Did you actually read what I said?

I'm sure every coach has a plan. It is a basic bitch part of any job that requires medium to long term decision making.

I agree, but I don't think pathways are part of his job. He would get a say on which pathways players he will accept into the full-time squad but apart from that he already has a job that will require a lot more than 40 hours a week. Why load up a rookie coach with more responsibilities when there's an entire staff dedicated to pathways? I believe we have a bunch of fulltime pathways staff for the first time in the club's history. That's pretty cool and a great sign of our growth as a club.

As espoused elsewhere where I and others believes that the pathways, although not a coach's direct responsibility, but he has to have input. Such as full time-part time coaches (Ryles obviously wanted full-time), training methods, integration with NRL squad, etc where they can seamlessly slot into NRL team already knowing the tactics and calls. Wouldn't be surprised if he even sat on selection panel for young players inputting his preference for type of athlete he wants for each position.

 

[hineyrulz]

MY LAST REPLY, HONESTLY. BA bought Barrett in to change his tactics which were one dimensional and stale as had NFI what to do other than 'chase the collision' which he repeated at nearly every press conference..

Did you actually read what I said? Based on Ryles recruitment so far his only recruit of note is JAC, all the rest being on potential. Blows your argument out of the water.

Did you actually read what I said?

As espoused elsewhere where I and others believes that the pathways, although not a coach's direct responsibility, but he has to have input. Such as full time-part time coaches (Ryles obviously wanted full-time), training methods, integration with NRL squad, etc where they can seamlessly slot into NRL team already knowing the tactics and calls. Wouldn't be surprised if he even sat on selection panel for young players inputting his preference for type of athlete he wants for each position.

BA sat on the panel and his only input for young players was "Rhino's"

 

[Delboy]

A lot of the progress in reinstating the JETS program and financing the junior coaches has to be attributed to the hard work undertaken by the Leagues Club board appointed under the new regime.They worked hard to establish a firm footing for the NRL financing and appointed a sponsorship board internally which has made the NRL team basically self sustainable.

Believe once this was established the board of the Leagues Club made the decision that their vision was to support junior league programmes and ensured that their funds while not needed specifically for the NRL team would be directed into the clubs junior development and junior league. We are seeing the rewards now of that initiative.

 

[hineyrulz]

A lot of the progress in reinstating the JETS program and financing the junior coaches has to be attributed to the hard work undertaken by the Leagues Club board appointed under the new regime.They worked hard to establish a firm footing for the NRL financing and appointed a sponsorship board internally which has made the NRL team basically self sustainable.

Believe once this was established the board of the Leagues Club made the decision that their vision was to support junior league programmes and ensured that their funds while not needed specifically for the NRL team would be directed into the clubs junior development and junior league. We are seeing the rewards now of that initiative.

A lot of that was the Bern??

 

[Delboy]

A lot of that was the Bern??

He was involved , but the new board did the work on the financial side to enable it to go forward , ie the COE and even the new precinct are a result of their progressive thinking and ability to focus on the financial side not the lunatic element.

That’s why it was important to appoint real business people to the board and ensure that the factions didn’t have an opportunity to return.

 

[Gazzamatta]

BA sat on the panel and his only input for young players was "Rhino's"

"I am Groot!"

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We must be very well resourced considering we effortlessly moved on our big money fullback and prop.

We moved them on but we don't know how much cap space we cleared. Who've we replaced Gutherson, Sivo and RCG with so far? Iongi, JAC and Williams? Maybe we used the extra cap space to front load the extensions to Russell, Hands and Tuilagi?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So are we suddenly now better resourced because we boned Gutherson and RCG?

Any club can pay merkins to leave. The better ones pay them the least, under the cap anyway.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Rehashing what I've already said at least twice before. Yes it stinks like a rotting fish and NRL blind, deaf and dumb as usual when comes to Storm (and Broncos their other love child).

Another stink, Hunt left $1.2/yr behind at Drags and signed on at Broncos for supposedly $600k for 2 years when also had other suitors and NRL assessed his salary, for cap, at what now getting paid. Who believes, firstly, he'd leave for half the money and secondly hes market value is only worth what he's getting paid???

That's resources for you

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Sounds like it going off Pou logic

Simpletons gonna oversimplify

 

[Poupou Escobar]

They do at the Storm.

#resources

 

[Avenger]

Any club can pay merkins to leave. The better ones pay them the least, under the cap anyway.

So you are assuming we are chipping in?