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Tiger5150

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2 games of cup both from the bench but better than TDS.. makes sense

Don't get me wrong haven't been a fan of TDS but me thinks you have a case of the Eels fan here...
He has played 2 NRL trials as well. He is already a better hooker than TDS and will be better BECAUSE he has only played 2 cup games. IMO Tigers didn’t help TDS by rushing him into first grade but they did have a plan for his development, but TDS was too big for learning.
Tigers are bringing Haywood through properly.
 

JokerEel

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He has played 2 NRL trials as well. He is already a better hooker than TDS and will be better BECAUSE he has only played 2 cup games. IMO Tigers didn’t help TDS by rushing him into first grade but they did have a plan for his development, but TDS was too big for learning.
Tigers are bringing Haywood through properly.

Fairly sure that was my take on the Tigers rushing through TDS...
Like i said if he was already better than TDS at the same age he wouldn't be only
Playing 2 games off the bench in cup.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Lol parra did alright last week considering 😂🤣😆
Penrith first daylight 2nd..not a fair fight
The new six again rule suits them better than the other clubs. The main reason is that they are better defenders than anyone else. Has the game really benefited ‘the little men’ or just the toilers?
 

Poupou Escobar

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Is this the same troll that continues to call Ivan Cleary a lucky coach.

Penrith atm look like the best drilled/coached side i have seen in 27 years watching RL. They are that far above everyone else its actually ridiculous.

And they have been doing for the whole 2020s era which is 6 and half years.
No I said he was obviously unlucky for his first fifteen years
 

Poupou Escobar

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Honestly, who gives a shit what he thinks? The bloke hasn’t got a clue. Way more satisfying just sitting back now, not engaging, and quietly laughing at the nonsense. Easily one of the best decisions I’ve made.
Sitting back and still can’t stop talking about the bloke. You poor bastard.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Also a bit early for old mate to say he will play Origin.

Haywood at 19yo is already a better hooker than TDS.
Haywood is only 18 months younger than TDS and played two games of reserve grade in his career. He has done less than nothing.
There is a reason Tigers let TDS go early. He is a poor trainer and has a bad attitude (main character syndrome). As a result TDS ceiling isn t much higher than where he is now. Loves a little bit of flash and can make a few very damaging darts from DH per game. He is great at that and loves that but unfortunately the scaffold of a great hooker is defence and service from DH and TDS is dogshit at both. This was identified 4 years ago for TDS as what he needed to improve and this is his 4th year in first grade and he isnt getting any better defensively or service. That said, watch him score from DH on Monday.

Haywood on the other hand, beside being a better player already, is also just a more balanced dude and will learn under Api (which was offered to TDS) for the next two years.

Dont get me wrong TDS will be a good player for Parra and will end up your starting first grade hooker, but he will never be elite.
You could be right. But three different coaches have trusted TDS in first grade, including the multiple premiership winner who gave him his NRL debut at 18. I reckon Sheens knows talent and attitude when he sees it.
 
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Also a bit early for old mate to say he will play Origin.

Haywood at 19yo is already a better hooker than TDS. There is a reason Tigers let TDS go early. He is a poor trainer and has a bad attitude (main character syndrome). As a result TDS ceiling isn t much higher than where he is now. Loves a little bit of flash and can make a few very damaging darts from DH per game. He is great at that and loves that but unfortunately the scaffold of a great hooker is defence and service from DH and TDS is dogshit at both. This was identified 4 years ago for TDS as what he needed to improve and this is his 4th year in first grade and he isnt getting any better defensively or service. That said, watch him score from DH on Monday.

Haywood on the other hand, beside being a better player already, is also just a more balanced dude and will learn under Api (which was offered to TDS) for the next two years.

Dont get me wrong TDS will be a good player for Parra and will end up your starting first grade hooker, but he will never be elite.
I don’t necessarily disagree regarding his bravado which would be okay if he deserved it, but it sounds like attitude is his biggest obstacle for the future and not ability, therefore if he can grow up and be humble and a team player, at 20 he could still fill his potential
 
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He has played 2 NRL trials as well. He is already a better hooker than TDS and will be better BECAUSE he has only played 2 cup games. IMO Tigers didn’t help TDS by rushing him into first grade but they did have a plan for his development, but TDS was too big for learning.
Tigers are bringing Haywood through properly.
So the Tigers may have done him a disservice by playing him too early hence him being dumb enough to think he’s something that he wasn’t as yet
 
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Except when he is one of 11 kids.....and the future main breadwinner for the family. Of course he is going to try and get the most he can! Daresay in his situation money is more important than loyalty!

And don't blame him either!
Well let’s make him the main breadwinner? and not fk up another potential negotiation with one very few promising juniors we have coming through, it appears u have ur bummy mates support, therefore I feel very much vindicated in my comments
 

hineyrulz

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Is this the same troll that continues to call Ivan Cleary a lucky coach.

Penrith atm look like the best drilled/coached side i have seen in 27 years watching RL. They are that far above everyone else its actually ridiculous.

And they have been doing for the whole 2020s era which is 6 and half years.
What a lucky prick Ivan is!!!
 

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